Posted by harry k on May 2, 2012, 2:06 pm
And the bottom line is that there is no "energy neutral" thing. Any
conversion of energy from one form to another is lossy. Even allowing
for an impossible energy source that is "energy neutral" to produce,
it will still be lossy (read heat producing) when used.
Of course there are 'less lossy" and "more lossy" energy sources
but tere are no "zero lossy" sources and never will be..
Posted by Morris Dovey on May 2, 2012, 3:10 pm
On 5/2/12 9:06 AM, harry k wrote:
Hmm. It /appears/ that you're making the claim that all solar thermal
systems, for example, are "over-unity" devices...
...or did I, or did you, misunderstand?
Posted by harry k on May 3, 2012, 3:51 am
You totally misunderstood and for the life of myh I don't see how you
could have.There are no over-unity devices and there are also
no "zero unity" devices as those are also ruled out by the first law
Posted by Morris Dovey on May 3, 2012, 5:56 am
On 5/2/12 10:51 PM, harry k wrote:
I did misunderstand completely - I thought you were responding to
something /I/ had said - none of which proposed either over-unity or
"zero unity" (whatever that may be).
Sorry for interrupting - I'll step aside so you can continue your