Posted by thegrq on February 16, 2006, 10:04 am
>From http://www.thewatt.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid 13
Compared to Europe, the US doesn't have much wind power installations
per person, only 15 watts/person compared to Denmarks leading 540
watts/person. But, Wyoming actually has more wind power than Denmark,
at 568 watts/person and they have another 390 watts/person proposed
installations. Not bad...who would have though?
Posted by LongmuirG on February 16, 2006, 11:22 am
the...@gmail.com wrote:
> Wyoming actually has more wind power than Denmark,
> at 568 watts/person and they have another 390 watts/person proposed
> installations. Not bad...who would have though?
See the thread about German wind-power experience further back.
German utility E.ON, who is the largest user of wind-generated
electricity in the world, has concluded that:
"traditional power stations with capacities equal to 90% of the
installed wind power capacity must be permanently on-line in order to
guarantee power supply at all times".
90%! Why not just forget the wind-power installations and use the
"permanently on-line" conventional backup stations?
Posted by barry on February 16, 2006, 12:23 pm
Why not? You're serious, right? Maybe because the fossil-fuel consumed
per kw-h while they're under load is kinda larger than with a
wind-farm?
Makes sense to me. Easy enough to have gas-turbine sets ready to spin
and switch in. Nukes, especially light-water, take longer. Lots longer.
J
Posted by Anthony Matonak on February 16, 2006, 12:27 pm
LongmuirG wrote:
...
> German utility E.ON, who is the largest user of wind-generated
> electricity in the world, has concluded that:
> "traditional power stations with capacities equal to 90% of the
> installed wind power capacity must be permanently on-line in order to
> guarantee power supply at all times".
>
> 90%! Why not just forget the wind-power installations and use the
> "permanently on-line" conventional backup stations?
Wind turbines don't require fuel and while they spin, the utility
can shut down some of those other generators.
Anthony
Posted by LongmuirG on February 16, 2006, 12:47 pm
Anthony Matonak wrote:
> Wind turbines don't require fuel and while they spin, the utility
> can shut down some of those other generators.
Go back, download the E.ON report on their real-world experience with
wind-power, then read it.
E.ON has invaluable real-world experience actually using large-scale
wind power to meet consumer demands for power. According to their
report, E.ON handles more wind-power capacity than the entire US. If
they have found, in meeting real consumer needs, that they need to
cover 90% of the installed wind power capacity with permanently on-line
conventional back-up, we all need to take that experience seriously.
And factor it in to realistic assessments about how/where/when to use
wind power.