Posted by daestrom on June 16, 2009, 4:24 pm
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> Will you two "Shut the Fuck UP........." Geeze Louise, Guys... enough
> already......
Reminds me of an episode of StarTrek where some character named Lazurus is
locked in a portal between parallel universes with his insane doppleganger.
"How would it be, trapped for eternity with a mad man at your throat.... The
universe is safe-- for you and me Mr. Spock, but what about Lazurus..."
daestrom
P.S. I'll leave it to the reader to decide which of these two is the insane
one.
Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on June 16, 2009, 7:02 pm
wrote:
>daestrom
>P.S. I'll leave it to the reader to decide which of these two is the insane
>one.
I'm convinced that at least a few readers really can't tell. To them I
say - feel free to become pen pals with ghinius ghio, it won't bother
me in the slightest. Particularly since I have investments in
fossil-fuel energy. :-)
Wayne
Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on June 16, 2009, 6:56 pm
>In article
>Drivel snipped
>Will you two "Shut the Fuck UP........." Geeze Louise, Guys... enough
>already......
You may be becoming as wacked as ghio if you keep reading stuff you
don't like. Killfile the thread, or killfile me if it helps you, I
won't mind. Or just don't click on the thread. But if you can't stop
yourself from reading it then I'm going to assume that you're waiting
for the solving of the great mystery of how many L16s are in a 48V
string. :-)
Wayne
Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on June 16, 2009, 6:53 pm
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:23:38 GMT, "vaughn"
> Hey Wayne;
>You really don't have to bother responding to Gho unless you really need to
>for some personal reason. Most of us have him blocked anyhow.
>Vaughn
Thanks. I do like ridiculing him, and occasionally the stuff I needle
him with might be useful to others who have a strong stomach. :-)
I only brought up the 1.5hp submersible as a point of reference. Even
though I have more experience than most with such applications, I
wasn't sure about the combination until I actually tried it. Hopefully
the info will be useful to someone. I suppose it was predictable that
the ghinius would take offense at the mention, but from my point of
view that just made it all the more worth writing about. :-)
Wayne
Posted by aasberry on June 13, 2009, 5:44 pm
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:16:06 -0700, wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:35:33 -0500, aasberry@aol.com wrote:
>>I'm new here but Wayne and I have had discussions on other groups.
>>I've looked over his website many times.
>>
>>I wonder why you didn't install a windmill for your well? You have
>>water storage up the hill for those times of calm. If there was a
>>reason, I'm missing it.
>>
>>Andy
>If you're talking about the old-fashioned cylinder-type windmill
>(Aeromotor), they're a niche, high-maintenance solution. I have
>friends in both the drilling and pump business, so I get to hear about
>and occasionally work on a lot of water wells. I haven't heard of a
>single new Aeormotor being installed in my area during the last 14
>years. One rancher did ask me about supplementing a new solar
>installation with an Aeromotor, but as soon as he compared the cost
>and benefits to adding more PV and/or a second solar pump and/or
>increased storage, he dropped the idea. Another rancher I know with
>dozens of wells, still has a few Aeormotors in use, but he's working
>at replacing them all with solar setups as finances allow.
>There's also a wind-driven air-compressor type water pump (Bowjon).
>They're cheaper and have some advantages, but IIRC they can't pump
>from very deep, and the "bubbler" needs substantial submergence.
>Wouldn't work at all in my application with as much as ~300' head and
>as little as zero submergence.
>Water pumping at my place is only a small percentage of daily
>consumption. Even though a conventional submersible isn't very
>efficient, for the relatively small amount of water we pump it's the
>most cost-effective solution. When and if the current pump fails, I
>might spring for a Grundfos SQ Flex. It would cost a premium of about
>$1200, but would save ~300Wh per day, and even more during periods
>when we're watering cattle. As it is, we have our pump on a timer so
>that it runs at noon, and we usually switch if off on cloudy days.
>That way its power rarely makes a trip through the batteries. Water is
>pumped up to a buried tank that's >100' higher elevation than the
>house, so we have nice pressure and can go for about a week without
>running the pump at all. The usual downside for a pump like ours at an
>off-grid place is that it might require a large inverter than
>otherwise desired. But we already needed large inverter capacity for
>several other larger loads. Another upside to that is that there's
>almost no chance of having a problem with simultaneous loads. The
>closest we come is when using the plasma cutter and forgetting to shut
>off the air compressor beforehand. Even then, all that happens is that
>when the compressor starts unexpectedly in the middle of cutting, the
>plasma cutter faults off temporarily. When that happens, usually I
>just pause cutting until the compressor finishes. But every once in a
>while I'll restart the cut while the compressor is still running, and
>it hasn't tripped the inverters yet.
>Point of reference in case it interests anyone - a friend expanded his
>solar setup to minimize his use of propane and generator. He added a
>transformer to a single Outback inverter, and it powers his 230V 1.5hp
>conventional submersible perfectly. Now, instead of needing to run his
>generator once a day to pump the well, the power comes from his PV.
>The improvements also allowed him to switch to an electric fridge. I
>swear though, the part that made him happiest was being able to use a
>regular toaster after 3 years of doing-without. :-)
>Wayne
My dad was a well repairman so I've climbed a few windmills. How deep
is your well? How deep is the water table?
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