Posted by Malc on March 7, 2006, 4:27 pm
Ok I'm in the UK but presumably similar things apply world wide?
I'm looking to get a woodburning stove as gas prices here are rocketing. It
would be nice to get one with a backboiler attached so that I could plumb it
into the central heating system and get it to heat the upstairs rooms if
possible and/or the hot water. The snag is that a standard non boiler stove
can be got for less than 200 UK pounds whereas one with a backboiler retails
at over 400UKP. Why the sudden jump,it's not rocket technology after all?
How easy would it be to make a backboiler and retrofit it? Any
recommendations?
--
Malc
"It is inconceivable that anything should be existing. It is not
inconceivable that a lot of people should also be existing who
are not interested in the fact that they exist. But it is
certainly very odd."
Posted by George Ghio on March 8, 2006, 6:17 pm
What it comes down to is the fact that if you have to ask then you
probably don't have the required skills to do the job.
This is not to say you could not learn them.
Tools required:
Oxy set
Pipe bender
Metal saw
You will need to know how to braze weld copper
And you will need a plan or an item to copy that will fit the stove
Other than that it's too easy to make a boiler for a stove.
Malc wrote:
> Ok I'm in the UK but presumably similar things apply world wide?
>
> I'm looking to get a woodburning stove as gas prices here are rocketing. It
> would be nice to get one with a backboiler attached so that I could plumb it
> into the central heating system and get it to heat the upstairs rooms if
> possible and/or the hot water. The snag is that a standard non boiler stove
> can be got for less than 200 UK pounds whereas one with a backboiler retails
> at over 400UKP. Why the sudden jump,it's not rocket technology after all?
> How easy would it be to make a backboiler and retrofit it? Any
> recommendations?
>
Posted by malc on March 9, 2006, 3:19 am
George Ghio wrote:
> What it comes down to is the fact that if you have to ask then you
> probably don't have the required skills to do the job.
That's an unwarranted assumption. I have never seen the inside of a
stove hence the need to ask.
--
Malc
Posted by George Ghio on March 9, 2006, 5:32 am
malc wrote:
> George Ghio wrote:
>
>>What it comes down to is the fact that if you have to ask then you
>>probably don't have the required skills to do the job.
>
>
> That's an unwarranted assumption. I have never seen the inside of a
> stove hence the need to ask.
>
Not true. The comment is based on metal working skills not whether you
have ever seen a HW Jacket.
Take for example the fact that if you use the common phosphor bronze for
welding any of the joints inside the fire box then you do not have the
required metal working skills needed to carry out the work.
The last boiler I made was to replace the failed unit in my stove. It
was a single coil of 25mm copper pipe. That is to say from the inlet the
pipe came in formed one complete loop and then exited. The inlet was
50mm lower than the outlet.
My stove will raise the temp from around 10c to more than 60c in twenty
minutes in a 60 gal tank.
Do you own or have access to an oxy set? Y/N
Do you know how to use an oxy set? Y/N
Do you own or have access to a pipe bender with a mandrel. Y/N
Do you know how to bend 1in copper pipe without a pipe bender, with out
flattening it? Y/N
If you have the skills then it is too easy to do and you would know this.
There is nothing stopping you from learning what you need to know.
Ask to see the HW Jacket for the stove you are looking at, measure it
and draw it up. Buy the materials. Cut and bend as required. Weld it all
together. Install it in the stove. Maybe a days work start to finish.
Off to the pub for a well earned pint.
And if you build a fire in the stove before you have connected to the
storage tank, well, you get to do it all over again.
It is not hard to do if you have the tools and skills. If you need to
get someone else to do the work... Just buy the bloody thing with the stove.
So tell us, do you have access to the tools and do you have the skills?
Posted by malc on March 9, 2006, 6:59 am
George Ghio wrote:
> So tell us, do you have access to the tools and do you have the skills?
Yes and yes. However I don't have the stove or the fireplace or the
whatever yet. What I was trying to ascertain was whether it was easy
enought to build a backboiler.
--
Malc
>
> I'm looking to get a woodburning stove as gas prices here are rocketing. It
> would be nice to get one with a backboiler attached so that I could plumb it
> into the central heating system and get it to heat the upstairs rooms if
> possible and/or the hot water. The snag is that a standard non boiler stove
> can be got for less than 200 UK pounds whereas one with a backboiler retails
> at over 400UKP. Why the sudden jump,it's not rocket technology after all?
> How easy would it be to make a backboiler and retrofit it? Any
> recommendations?
>