Posted by lkgeo1 on November 7, 2006, 12:33 pm
Years of R&D efforts start to bear fruit: fuel cells - residential
systems expected in three years
Publication Date:07-November-2006
12:30 PM US Eastern Timezone
Source:Japan Chemical Week
Japan has introduced in 2005 a three-year project that aims to develop
and commercialize residential fuel-cell systems that cost less than Yen
1 M. Under the project, major electrical appliance firms such as Fuji
Electric Holdings, Matsushita Electric Industrial, Sanyo Electric, and
Ebara Ballard will supply the fuel-cell systems that will be set up in
residences by firms including, Taiyo Oil, Osaka Gas, Nippon Oil,
Idemitsu Kosan and Tokyo Gas.
The development also covers solid oxide fuel cells and molten carbonate
fuel cells.
Hydrogen-based fuel cells can reduce energy use and carbon dioxide
emissions. They may be used to substitute for internal combustion
engines and storage batteries in automobiles, microcells for mobile
devices and distributed power sources.
Posted by Eric Sears on November 7, 2006, 3:17 pm
>Years of R&D efforts start to bear fruit: fuel cells - residential
>systems expected in three years
Key words in this article -
> a three-year project
(Read - "its a long way off, probably 3 decades")
>that aims to develop
(Read - we aren't there yet and actually we really don't know when we
will be - but the usual "promises, promises")
>The development also covers solid oxide fuel cells and molten carbonate
>fuel cells.
(Hey - let's "cover " everything. Might as well include small portable
nuclear generators and cold fusion reactors :-) (They probably have
as much chance of success)
>Hydrogen-based fuel cells can reduce energy use and carbon dioxide
>emissions. They may be used to substitute for internal combustion
>engines and storage batteries in automobiles, microcells for mobile
>devices and distributed power sources.
That is - as long as we can find that inexhaustible supply of the
elusive hydrogen.
(PS - Nick's question has still never been answered ie Where will you
get the hydrogen?!!) Sigh!
Eric Sears.
Posted by Mary Fisher on November 7, 2006, 3:32 pm
>>Years of R&D efforts start to bear fruit: fuel cells - residential
>>systems expected in three years
>>
> Key words in this article -
>> a three-year project
> (Read - "its a long way off, probably 3 decades")
>>that aims to develop
> (Read - we aren't there yet and actually we really don't know when we
> will be - but the usual "promises, promises")
>>
>>The development also covers solid oxide fuel cells and molten carbonate
>>fuel cells.
> (Hey - let's "cover " everything. Might as well include small portable
> nuclear generators and cold fusion reactors :-) (They probably have
> as much chance of success)
>>
>>Hydrogen-based fuel cells can reduce energy use and carbon dioxide
>>emissions. They may be used to substitute for internal combustion
>>engines and storage batteries in automobiles, microcells for mobile
>>devices and distributed power sources.
> That is - as long as we can find that inexhaustible supply of the
> elusive hydrogen.
> (PS - Nick's question has still never been answered ie Where will you
> get the hydrogen?!!) Sigh!
> Eric Sears.
Why are you so cynical?
Technology doesn't progress in decades these days.
Mary
>>
>
Posted by Eeyore on November 7, 2006, 4:39 pm
Mary Fisher wrote:
> > That is - as long as we can find that inexhaustible supply of the
> > elusive hydrogen.
> > (PS - Nick's question has still never been answered ie Where will you
> > get the hydrogen?!!) Sigh!
> >
> > Eric Sears.
> Why are you so cynical?
Because there's no natural source of hydrogen.
> Technology doesn't progress in decades these days.
Technology doesn't change the fact that hydrogen has to be *manufactured* !
Using energy that could be used directly far more efficiently in the first
place.
Graham
Posted by Mary Fisher on November 7, 2006, 4:45 pm
> Mary Fisher wrote:
>>
>> > That is - as long as we can find that inexhaustible supply of the
>> > elusive hydrogen.
>> > (PS - Nick's question has still never been answered ie Where will you
>> > get the hydrogen?!!) Sigh!
>> >
>> > Eric Sears.
>>
>> Why are you so cynical?
> Because there's no natural source of hydrogen.
You've conveniently snipped :-)
>> Technology doesn't progress in decades these days.
> Technology doesn't change the fact that hydrogen has to be *manufactured*
> !
No it doesn't, It has to be *extracted*. That's a different process.
Mary
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