Posted by Balanced View on June 12, 2008, 11:48 am
Eeyore wrote:
> dnoyeB wrote:
>
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>> Balanced View wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eeyore wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Why not buy het a golf cart and be done with it ?
>>>>>
>>>> Because their use is not allowed on public roads in Ontario Canada.
>>>> Part of the reason we don't have such vehicles is because of outdated
>>>> legislation. They finally changed the law to allow electric bikes and
>>>> scooters, but have blocked the use of cars like this:
>>>> http://www.zenncars.com/
>>>>
>>> LIES ! There is no such thing as a ZERO emission car.
>>>
>> An electric car is a zero emission car.
>>
> Complete garbage.
> Where are the emissions free electricity wells ? Never mind the emissions
> from its manufacture (and subsequent disposal/recycling).
> Graham
>
Do us all a favor, get yourself a dictionary and look up the word "
Emissions" . As for the rest of your diatribe,
everything made has "emissions from its manufacture" and requires
"disposal/recycling"
Posted by Eeyore on June 12, 2008, 1:04 pm
Balanced View wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > dnoyeB wrote:
> >> Eeyore wrote:
> >>> Balanced View wrote:
> >>>> Eeyore wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why not buy het a golf cart and be done with it ?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Because their use is not allowed on public roads in Ontario Canada.
> >>>> Part of the reason we don't have such vehicles is because of outdated
> >>>> legislation. They finally changed the law to allow electric bikes and
> >>>> scooters, but have blocked the use of cars like this:
> >>>> http://www.zenncars.com/
> >>>>
> >>> LIES ! There is no such thing as a ZERO emission car.
> >>>
> >> An electric car is a zero emission car.
> >
> > Complete garbage.
> >
> > Where are the emissions free electricity wells ? Never mind the emissions
> > from its manufacture (and subsequent disposal/recycling).
> Do us all a favor, get yourself a dictionary and look up the word "
> Emissions" . As for the rest of your diatribe,
> everything made has "emissions from its manufacture" and requires
> "disposal/recycling"
Still doesn't make your definition correct.
And the *ELECTRICITY* itself ?
Graham
Posted by Balanced View on June 12, 2008, 1:37 pm
Eeyore wrote:
> Balanced View wrote:
>
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>> dnoyeB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Balanced View wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eeyore wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not buy het a golf cart and be done with it ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because their use is not allowed on public roads in Ontario Canada.
>>>>>> Part of the reason we don't have such vehicles is because of outdated
>>>>>> legislation. They finally changed the law to allow electric bikes and
>>>>>> scooters, but have blocked the use of cars like this:
>>>>>> http://www.zenncars.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> LIES ! There is no such thing as a ZERO emission car.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> An electric car is a zero emission car.
>>>>
>>> Complete garbage.
>>>
>>> Where are the emissions free electricity wells ? Never mind the emissions
>>> from its manufacture (and subsequent disposal/recycling).
>>>
>> Do us all a favor, get yourself a dictionary and look up the word "
>> Emissions" . As for the rest of your diatribe,
>> everything made has "emissions from its manufacture" and requires
>> "disposal/recycling"
>>
> Still doesn't make your definition correct.
> And the *ELECTRICITY* itself ?
> Graham
>
Yes it does, an EV does not burn hydrocarbons, therefore is a Zero
Emission vehicle. As for the electricity itself,
it depends were you live. Where I live it's nearly all Hydro and
nuclear. If you had a solar array to charge an EV
even better.
Posted by Eeyore on June 12, 2008, 2:59 pm
Balanced View wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > And the *ELECTRICITY* itself ?
> Yes it does, an EV does not burn hydrocarbons, therefore is a Zero
> Emission vehicle. As for the electricity itself,
> it depends were you live. Where I live it's nearly all Hydro
Well, lucky YOU. If only we all did, all our problems would be over.
> and nuclear.
Do you not count nuclear emissions btw ? Taken a geiger counter into the Irish
Sea ever or off Dounreay ?
> If you had a solar array to charge an EV even better.
As long as your journey is only a few miles you MIGHT just manage on PV but I
doubt it. PV is, after the 'hydrogen economy', the biggest scam in recent
history.
So in other words, taken overall, it's anything BUT a ZEV.
I suggest you learn some science, physics, electronics, engineering, propulsion
systems, mechanical design etc, etc and come back in a few decades with your
alleged ZEV.
Graham
Posted by Balanced View on June 12, 2008, 5:25 pm
Eeyore wrote:
> Balanced View wrote:
>
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>> And the *ELECTRICITY* itself ?
>>>
>> Yes it does, an EV does not burn hydrocarbons, therefore is a Zero
>> Emission vehicle. As for the electricity itself,
>> it depends were you live. Where I live it's nearly all Hydro
>>
> Well, lucky YOU. If only we all did, all our problems would be over.
>
Never said the solution was a magic bullet, but for the average commuter
current EV's are more than capable
of driving to work and back.
>
>> and nuclear.
>>
> Do you not count nuclear emissions btw ? Taken a geiger counter into the Irish
> Sea ever or off Dounreay ?
>
I don't live in Ireland
>
>> If you had a solar array to charge an EV even better.
>>
> As long as your journey is only a few miles you MIGHT just manage on PV but I
> doubt it. PV is, after the 'hydrogen economy', the biggest scam in recent
> history.
>
I've already mentioned our longest commute is only about five miles, I'd
hardly need much to top that up.
> So in other words, taken overall, it's anything BUT a ZEV.
>
We have already determined a EV does not emit burned hydro carbons, and
fits the definition of
"Zero Emissions" as accepted by the Automobile manufacturers and the
Government.
> I suggest you learn some science, physics, electronics, engineering, propulsion
> systems, mechanical design etc, etc and come back in a few decades with your
> alleged ZEV.
> Graham
>
Coming from someone like you who can't even follow a newsgroup thread
that's highly amusing.....
>
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>> Balanced View wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eeyore wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Why not buy het a golf cart and be done with it ?
>>>>>
>>>> Because their use is not allowed on public roads in Ontario Canada.
>>>> Part of the reason we don't have such vehicles is because of outdated
>>>> legislation. They finally changed the law to allow electric bikes and
>>>> scooters, but have blocked the use of cars like this:
>>>> http://www.zenncars.com/
>>>>
>>> LIES ! There is no such thing as a ZERO emission car.
>>>
>> An electric car is a zero emission car.
>>
> Complete garbage.
> Where are the emissions free electricity wells ? Never mind the emissions
> from its manufacture (and subsequent disposal/recycling).
> Graham
>