Posted by vaughn on November 18, 2010, 12:53 pm
>But somewhere along the line we need to see if the magnet-
>to-magnet device being proposed by Mr Rojas has a flicker
>of a chance at giving more power than was put in by virtue
>of the inherent magnet effects.
Things are so thin in this group that I hate to say anything that might
discourage discussion, but this group has always been about things that ACTUALLY
WORK. There are other groups for endless over-unity discussions.
Vaughn
Posted by Josepi on November 18, 2010, 3:02 pm
Imagination produces more energy than magnets will ever do. I use
imagination to power my whole home and it doesn't cost me a dime.
Things are so thin in this group that I hate to say anything that might
discourage discussion, but this group has always been about things that
ACTUALLY
WORK. There are other groups for endless over-unity discussions.
Vaughn
Posted by Curbie on November 18, 2010, 7:01 am
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:12:56 -0800 (PST), Michael B
>A different source was presented, and it did a much better
>job of presentation. The observation was made at the site
>that wattages may be confounded by the meters not
>seeing a true sine wave, but look at the current readings.
>They suggest an over-unity output, assuming that the
>metering is legit. Check the most recent Rojas post.
>I'm not ready to believe in Santa Claus, but I do expect
>that one of these days someone is going to be able to
>use the magnets for something other than the usual
>stuff. It might be this one, but not being able to couple
>it back to itself suggests that it isn't the Holy Grail of
>over-unity.
Michael,
In general, I agree with your assessment of that video and given the
fact that successful over-unity devices are physically impossible in
terms of our current understanding of the laws of physics, I think it
requires extraordinary proof to advocate over-unity claims.
So, as long as no one is advocating over-unity without extraordinary
proof or asking for money in some form or another (in either case,
trying to scam someone), I don't see the harm in discussing this, as
long as people know how ugly z's hydro thread is bound to get if this
turns to avocation or solicitation of a over-unity device without
extraordinary proof.
Most discoveries have been made while looking for something other than
what was discovered, so sometimes making a journey brings you to a
successful destination other than the one you set out for, and as long
as people know that over-unity breaks current laws of physics, it
seems any other successful destination is the best that can hoped for
here.
Curbie
Posted by Josepi on November 18, 2010, 3:04 pm
Usenet is dying very quickly due to so much of it's troll enabling and
netkopping (at the same time)
Go for it and ruin this group. Most of the technology is at a standstill
anyway.
Michael,
In general, I agree with your assessment of that video and given the
fact that successful over-unity devices are physically impossible in
terms of our current understanding of the laws of physics, I think it
requires extraordinary proof to advocate over-unity claims.
So, as long as no one is advocating over-unity without extraordinary
proof or asking for money in some form or another (in either case,
trying to scam someone), I don't see the harm in discussing this, as
long as people know how ugly z's hydro thread is bound to get if this
turns to avocation or solicitation of a over-unity device without
extraordinary proof.
Most discoveries have been made while looking for something other than
what was discovered, so sometimes making a journey brings you to a
successful destination other than the one you set out for, and as long
as people know that over-unity breaks current laws of physics, it
seems any other successful destination is the best that can hoped for
here.
Curbie
Posted by m II on November 18, 2010, 4:31 pm
On 10-11-18 12:01 AM, Curbie wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:12:56 -0800 (PST), Michael B
>> A different source was presented, and it did a much better
>> job of presentation. The observation was made at the site
>> that wattages may be confounded by the meters not
>> seeing a true sine wave, but look at the current readings.
>> They suggest an over-unity output, assuming that the
>> metering is legit. Check the most recent Rojas post.
>> I'm not ready to believe in Santa Claus, but I do expect
>> that one of these days someone is going to be able to
>> use the magnets for something other than the usual
>> stuff. It might be this one, but not being able to couple
>> it back to itself suggests that it isn't the Holy Grail of
>> over-unity.
> Michael,
> In general, I agree with your assessment of that video and given the
> fact that successful over-unity devices are physically impossible in
> terms of our current understanding of the laws of physics, I think it
> requires extraordinary proof to advocate over-unity claims.
> So, as long as no one is advocating over-unity without extraordinary
> proof or asking for money in some form or another (in either case,
> trying to scam someone), I don't see the harm in discussing this, as
> long as people know how ugly z's hydro thread is bound to get if this
> turns to avocation or solicitation of a over-unity device without
> extraordinary proof.
> Most discoveries have been made while looking for something other than
> what was discovered, so sometimes making a journey brings you to a
> successful destination other than the one you set out for, and as long
> as people know that over-unity breaks current laws of physics, it
> seems any other successful destination is the best that can hoped for
> here.
> Curbie
Well said. Even with your best of intentions, however, I suspect some
low life will critisise you. Keep up the sanity.
Presently I am discovering just how much fuel I have to burn to make up
for the overcast skies in Southern Alberta. No sun for the last three
days. I even fired up the catalytic kerosene heater to take a load off
the furnace motor.
mike
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>to-magnet device being proposed by Mr Rojas has a flicker
>of a chance at giving more power than was put in by virtue
>of the inherent magnet effects.