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Posted by News on June 24, 2009, 12:48 pm
>> >>> >>> WAUSEON - The man who drove his 20-year-old Mustang from Napoleon, >>> Ohio, to Las Vegas and back last year on 39 gallons of fuel will open >>> his first manufacturing facility Monday to allow others to get 110 >>> miles per gallon. >> >> What makes this engine so fuel efficient to normal off the shelf >> engines? > Who knows. Maybe the newspaper editor was smoking crack. Just funny to > see these kind of stories in a real newspaper rather than just some > asshole's web site
I did a Google and a few ran it. Most were on about a new engine factory
being built for this secret engine. He say he is not disclosing the secret
awaiting patents, which appears probable, but an outline of how it works
would not put him at a disadvantage.
But I fear this is another hoax. For an engine to be so efficient it would
need a radical departure from the current inefficient piston designs.
Youtube:
Just pictures of an old not too nice car.
Posted by You on June 24, 2009, 3:41 pm
> He say he is not disclosing the secret > awaiting patents, which appears probable, but an outline of how it works > would not put him at a disadvantage.
You don't have to WAIT, to disclose, once your Patent is "Filed" with
the Patent Office, because it is the Filing Date, that is critical, NOT
the Issuance Date. If that is his excuse, then he isn't being honest
with his disclosers..... and likely is a ScumBag Scammer.....
Posted by harry k on June 26, 2009, 11:44 pm
> > He say he is not disclosing the secret > > awaiting patents, which appears probable, but an outline of how it works > > would not put him at a disadvantage. > You don't have to WAIT, to disclose, once your Patent is "Filed" with > the Patent Office, because it is the Filing Date, that is critical, NOT > the Issuance Date. If that is his excuse, then he isn't being honest > with his disclosers..... and likely is a ScumBag Scammer.....
Any "secret" on how it works will be revealed with the firsst one off
the assembly line anyhow. IOW it is nothing but a scam.
Harry K
Posted by Morris Dovey on June 27, 2009, 2:37 am
You wrote:
> >> He say he is not disclosing the secret >> awaiting patents, which appears probable, but an outline of how it works >> would not put him at a disadvantage. > > You don't have to WAIT, to disclose, once your Patent is "Filed" with > the Patent Office, because it is the Filing Date, that is critical, NOT > the Issuance Date. If that is his excuse, then he isn't being honest > with his disclosers..... and likely is a ScumBag Scammer.....
Hmm - that's not quite correct if he also wants foreign patents, which
would seem fairly reasonable in this case. In the case of the EU, he
needs to file (and pay) the EU - and then file (and pay) in each of the
member countries in which he wants to exercise patent rights.
It can take a while - and it can cause significant delays in getting new
technology to the market.
( I spent most of yesterday afternoon in my patent attorney's office
trying not to become discouraged by all of this. )
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Posted by Jim Wilkins on June 27, 2009, 10:20 am
> I'm not even close to being an ICE expert (although I'm learning as fast > as I can about fluid-piston XCE for non-transport applications) - I just > wanted to point out that non-disclosure of an invention due to patent > delays isn't a reliable indicator of a scam. > Morris Dovey
The ICE experts are betting on the Atkinson cycle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkinson_cycle
Here is the real way to compare engine fuel efficiencies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_specific_fuel_consumption
Notice that the Revetec isn't the most efficient and modern designs
don't improve much on the long-range aircraft piston engines of the
1930s and 40s. Unlike the big modern Diesels the Wright and similar
Pratt & Whitney radials were also extremely light, around 1.2 Lbs per
HP.
My 1949 aircraft powerplant book shows a typical engine producing ~36%
thermal efficiency before the supercharger. The losses are ~52% in the
exhaust and only ~12% from cooling, which includes cylinder and rod
friction. About 5% of the exhaust loss is from incomplete combustion.
So perfect combustion and a frictionless design could gain less than
15%.
This is a descendant of the Jumo aircraft Diesel, developed for
locomotives and used with great success in American WW2 submarines:
http://www.fairbanksmorse.com/engine_opposed_piston_model_38.php
>>>
>>> WAUSEON - The man who drove his 20-year-old Mustang from Napoleon,
>>> Ohio, to Las Vegas and back last year on 39 gallons of fuel will open
>>> his first manufacturing facility Monday to allow others to get 110
>>> miles per gallon.
>>
>> What makes this engine so fuel efficient to normal off the shelf
>> engines?
> Who knows. Maybe the newspaper editor was smoking crack. Just funny to
> see these kind of stories in a real newspaper rather than just some
> asshole's web site