Posted by Jim Wilkins on June 18, 2010, 11:41 am
> ...
> Not to say that they're not good gens.. but even the local honda repair
> guys get knock off 'chonda' parts from china to save money. One guy was
> telling me a 'chonda' replacement carb for a gen cost about 1/3rd the
> price and was easier to get.
> ....
> -zachary
That is the first time I've seen "get .. parts from china" in print.
What is the world coming to?
jsw
Posted by z on June 18, 2010, 3:42 pm
5d741414aad9@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
>> ...
>> Not to say that they're not good gens.. but even the local honda repair
>> guys get knock off 'chonda' parts from china to save money. One guy wa
> s
>> telling me a 'chonda' replacement carb for a gen cost about 1/3rd the
>> price and was easier to get.
>> ....
>> -zachary
>
> That is the first time I've seen "get .. parts from china" in print.
> What is the world coming to?
>
> jsw
>
Well I think they have no particular loyalty to Japan either. It's not
like either of those parts are made in the USA right? So why does a local
mechanic feel bad for using parts made in China rather than Japan?
Posted by Jim Wilkins on June 18, 2010, 6:22 pm
> >> ...
> > That is the first time I've seen "get .. parts from china" in print.
> > What is the world coming to?
> > jsw
> Well I think they have no particular loyalty to Japan either. It's not
> like either of those parts are made in the USA right? So why does a local
> mechanic feel bad for using parts made in China rather than Japan?
I meant ABLE to get spare parts from China.
I only buy more expensive imported tools from local stores so I can
examine them first to see if I could make repair parts myself. Usually
they are so simple and crude that I can, except for hydraulic seals
which apparently tend to be non-standard. I've bought replacement
piston seals with the correct outside diameter and machined an adapter
sleeve to make the inside hole and thickness fit.
jsw
Posted by z on June 21, 2010, 5:26 am
>> >> ...
>>
>> > That is the first time I've seen "get .. parts from china" in
>> > print. What is the world coming to?
>> > jsw
>>
>> Well I think they have no particular loyalty to Japan either. It's
>> not like either of those parts are made in the USA right? So why does
>> a local mechanic feel bad for using parts made in China rather than
>> Japan?
>
> I meant ABLE to get spare parts from China.
>
> I only buy more expensive imported tools from local stores so I can
> examine them first to see if I could make repair parts myself. Usually
> they are so simple and crude that I can, except for hydraulic seals
> which apparently tend to be non-standard. I've bought replacement
> piston seals with the correct outside diameter and machined an adapter
> sleeve to make the inside hole and thickness fit.
>
> jsw
ahh sorry I get what you are saying. I was just talking with these guys:
http://www.bandonrents.com/ (i get my propane from them when in Bandon)
who had several honda gens torn apart. They were talking about how much
cheaper and good the 'chonda' parts were and they were using them like
crazy for direct replacements. NOt simple parts but like replacement
carbs etc. It seems they have a good source for china parts -- which are
basic clones of most standard honda small engine components -- probably
made with slave labour and without paying royalties. Me i'd rather not
give the chi-coms the biz but from what those boys were saying the
replacement parts were good.
What you are talking about is at another level. Freaking hydraulics man!
cheers
=z
Posted by Jim Wilkins on June 21, 2010, 12:47 pm
> ...
> who had several honda gens torn apart. They were talking about how much
> cheaper and good the 'chonda' parts were and they were using them like
> crazy for direct replacements. NOt simple parts but like replacement
> carbs etc. It seems they have a good source for china parts -- which are
> basic clones of most standard honda small engine components -- probably
> made with slave labour and without paying royalties. Me i'd rather not
> give the chi-coms the biz but from what those boys were saying the
> replacement parts were good....
> =z
In my experience subassemblies from China can be of excellent quality
if you work closely with the factory to establish the process
parameters. The Chinese are no better or worse than any other
nationality but they lack our long experience in the subtleties of
modern high-tech industry, and repeat our early mistakes. The US took
50 years to catch up to European industrial standards too, from about
1800 to 1850.
I have been the lab tech for a Chinese female engineer who couldn't
come close to my manual dexterity for delicate miniature work.
jsw
> Not to say that they're not good gens.. but even the local honda repair
> guys get knock off 'chonda' parts from china to save money. One guy was
> telling me a 'chonda' replacement carb for a gen cost about 1/3rd the
> price and was easier to get.
> ....
> -zachary