Posted by Josepi on June 28, 2010, 10:36 am
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>> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 13:23:20 -0500, The Daring Dufas
>>
>>>On 6/26/2010 12:32 PM, harry wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/26/2010 3:20 AM, harry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 24, 5:41 pm, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Are there auto-changeover propane regulators (or separate
>>>>>>>>> auto-changeover
>>>>>>>>> devices) for fixed (2x 1000 gallon) tanks? The propane company
>>>>>>>>> putting in
>>>>>>>>> my tanks had not heard of this, and Google searches turn up only
>>>>>>>>> ones for
>>>>>>>>> small RV tanks. Ideally something with a remote indicator would be
>>>>>>>>> nice;
>>>>>>>>> I could arrange for the computer to email me to call for a
>>>>>>>>> delivery...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan Lanciani
>>>>>>>>> ddl@danlan.*com
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a reson you can't use the rv ones? Are you using the same
>>>>>>>> pressure? I've not seen any with remote indicators though.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> there is ONE BIG reason you can't RV tanks on a generator of any
>>>>>>> size.
>>>>>>> (10Kw) they are Vapor withdraw type tanks and they don't have enough
>>>>>>> surface area to allow the propane liquid to boil off into gas,
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> freezing up the tank.... duh... anyone who has ever tried it knows
>>>>>>> this...
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is true. We run cars on propane over here. The liquid propane
>>>>>> is vapourised in a heat exchange device that draws water from the
>>>>>> coolant jacket of the IC engine. Many are converted from petrol,
>>>>>> there is an annular ring fitted between the carburretor and the inlet
>>>>>> manifold that injects the gas through a ring of holes. Needle jet
>>>>>> controls the gas on the liquid side of the vapouriser device.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here, Alabama Gas has been running their vehicles on natural gas for
>>>>> many years. You can see the CNG tanks on the beds of their service
>>>>> trucks. Those vehicles have a similar setup to those that run on
>>>>> Propane.
>>>>>
>>>>> TDD- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> Aha. There is a difference .The natural gas is just compressed. The
>>>> propane is liquid and has to be evaporated off. I suppose in a warm
>>>> climate you might not need an evaporator but even here in the UK you
>>>> do.
>>>> In the hospital where I worked we had liquid oxygen. It held about
>>>> three tons of LOXWe even needed a heat exchanger on that to evaporate
>>>> the LOX. It was just like a big car radiator. Even so it used to
>>>> freeze up. We had to clear the ice off with a steam lance in certain
>>>> weather conditions.
>>>
>>>You know, I'm not sure if the gas company is not liquefying the natural
>>>gas, the tanks look very substantial and the technology for liquefying
>>>NG is quite mature. I know some guys who work for Alabama gas and I will
>>>ask them about it. In another thread there was a discussion about O2 and
>>>the tanks. I mentioned the rather large LOX tank at the University
>>>Hospital complex here in town that I want to know more about.
>>
>> Unlike propane, natural gas can't be in the liquid state at room
>> temperature,
>> so must be transported cryogenically or compressed under extreme pressure.
>> Cryogenics are complicated, heavy, and require energy themselves. A
>> highly
>> compressed flammable gas isn't exactly a good vehicle fuel either; not
>> enough
>> can be carried safely.
>Wrong! Where do you idiots get this information?
Certainly a better place than do you!
Posted by Josepi on June 28, 2010, 12:32 pm
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>> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 13:23:20 -0500, The Daring Dufas
>>
>>>On 6/26/2010 12:32 PM, harry wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/26/2010 3:20 AM, harry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 24, 5:41 pm, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Are there auto-changeover propane regulators (or separate
>>>>>>>>> auto-changeover
>>>>>>>>> devices) for fixed (2x 1000 gallon) tanks? The propane company
>>>>>>>>> putting in
>>>>>>>>> my tanks had not heard of this, and Google searches turn up only
>>>>>>>>> ones for
>>>>>>>>> small RV tanks. Ideally something with a remote indicator would be
>>>>>>>>> nice;
>>>>>>>>> I could arrange for the computer to email me to call for a
>>>>>>>>> delivery...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan Lanciani
>>>>>>>>> ddl@danlan.*com
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a reson you can't use the rv ones? Are you using the same
>>>>>>>> pressure? I've not seen any with remote indicators though.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> there is ONE BIG reason you can't RV tanks on a generator of any
>>>>>>> size.
>>>>>>> (10Kw) they are Vapor withdraw type tanks and they don't have enough
>>>>>>> surface area to allow the propane liquid to boil off into gas,
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> freezing up the tank.... duh... anyone who has ever tried it knows
>>>>>>> this...
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is true. We run cars on propane over here. The liquid propane
>>>>>> is vapourised in a heat exchange device that draws water from the
>>>>>> coolant jacket of the IC engine. Many are converted from petrol,
>>>>>> there is an annular ring fitted between the carburretor and the inlet
>>>>>> manifold that injects the gas through a ring of holes. Needle jet
>>>>>> controls the gas on the liquid side of the vapouriser device.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here, Alabama Gas has been running their vehicles on natural gas for
>>>>> many years. You can see the CNG tanks on the beds of their service
>>>>> trucks. Those vehicles have a similar setup to those that run on
>>>>> Propane.
>>>>>
>>>>> TDD- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> Aha. There is a difference .The natural gas is just compressed. The
>>>> propane is liquid and has to be evaporated off. I suppose in a warm
>>>> climate you might not need an evaporator but even here in the UK you
>>>> do.
>>>> In the hospital where I worked we had liquid oxygen. It held about
>>>> three tons of LOXWe even needed a heat exchanger on that to evaporate
>>>> the LOX. It was just like a big car radiator. Even so it used to
>>>> freeze up. We had to clear the ice off with a steam lance in certain
>>>> weather conditions.
>>>
>>>You know, I'm not sure if the gas company is not liquefying the natural
>>>gas, the tanks look very substantial and the technology for liquefying
>>>NG is quite mature. I know some guys who work for Alabama gas and I will
>>>ask them about it. In another thread there was a discussion about O2 and
>>>the tanks. I mentioned the rather large LOX tank at the University
>>>Hospital complex here in town that I want to know more about.
>>
>> Unlike propane, natural gas can't be in the liquid state at room
>> temperature,
>> so must be transported cryogenically or compressed under extreme
>> pressure.
>> Cryogenics are complicated, heavy, and require energy themselves. A
>> highly
>> compressed flammable gas isn't exactly a good vehicle fuel either; not
>> enough
>> can be carried safely.
>Wrong! Where do you idiots get this information?
Certainly a better place than do you!
Posted by Josepi on June 28, 2010, 12:54 pm
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Posted by Josepi on June 28, 2010, 1:24 pm
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Posted by The Daring Dufas on June 28, 2010, 3:39 am
On 6/27/2010 9:17 PM, m II wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 13:23:20 -0500, The Daring Dufas
>>
>>> On 6/26/2010 12:32 PM, harry wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/26/2010 3:20 AM, harry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 24, 5:41 pm, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Are there auto-changeover propane regulators (or separate
>>>>>>>>> auto-changeover
>>>>>>>>> devices) for fixed (2x 1000 gallon) tanks? The propane company
>>>>>>>>> putting in
>>>>>>>>> my tanks had not heard of this, and Google searches turn up
>>>>>>>>> only ones for
>>>>>>>>> small RV tanks. Ideally something with a remote indicator would
>>>>>>>>> be nice;
>>>>>>>>> I could arrange for the computer to email me to call for a
>>>>>>>>> delivery...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan Lanciani
>>>>>>>>> ddl@danlan.*com
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a reson you can't use the rv ones? Are you using the same
>>>>>>>> pressure? I've not seen any with remote indicators though.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> there is ONE BIG reason you can't RV tanks on a generator of any
>>>>>>> size.
>>>>>>> (10Kw) they are Vapor withdraw type tanks and they don't have enough
>>>>>>> surface area to allow the propane liquid to boil off into gas,
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> freezing up the tank.... duh... anyone who has ever tried it knows
>>>>>>> this...
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is true. We run cars on propane over here. The liquid propane
>>>>>> is vapourised in a heat exchange device that draws water from the
>>>>>> coolant jacket of the IC engine. Many are converted from petrol,
>>>>>> there is an annular ring fitted between the carburretor and the inlet
>>>>>> manifold that injects the gas through a ring of holes. Needle jet
>>>>>> controls the gas on the liquid side of the vapouriser device.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here, Alabama Gas has been running their vehicles on natural gas for
>>>>> many years. You can see the CNG tanks on the beds of their service
>>>>> trucks. Those vehicles have a similar setup to those that run on
>>>>> Propane.
>>>>>
>>>>> TDD- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> Aha. There is a difference .The natural gas is just compressed. The
>>>> propane is liquid and has to be evaporated off. I suppose in a warm
>>>> climate you might not need an evaporator but even here in the UK you
>>>> do.
>>>> In the hospital where I worked we had liquid oxygen. It held about
>>>> three tons of LOXWe even needed a heat exchanger on that to evaporate
>>>> the LOX. It was just like a big car radiator. Even so it used to
>>>> freeze up. We had to clear the ice off with a steam lance in certain
>>>> weather conditions.
>>>
>>> You know, I'm not sure if the gas company is not liquefying the natural
>>> gas, the tanks look very substantial and the technology for liquefying
>>> NG is quite mature. I know some guys who work for Alabama gas and I will
>>> ask them about it. In another thread there was a discussion about O2 and
>>> the tanks. I mentioned the rather large LOX tank at the University
>>> Hospital complex here in town that I want to know more about.
>>
>> Unlike propane, natural gas can't be in the liquid state at room
>> temperature,
>> so must be transported cryogenically or compressed under extreme
>> pressure.
>> Cryogenics are complicated, heavy, and require energy themselves. A
>> highly
>> compressed flammable gas isn't exactly a good vehicle fuel either; not
>> enough
>> can be carried safely.
> Wrong! Where do you idiots get this information?
> Propane liquefies about 150 PSI at room temperature. NG takes much more
> pressure.
> Mike
OK, I got un-lazy and looked it up. I learn something new every day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquefied_natural_gas
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>>
>>>On 6/26/2010 12:32 PM, harry wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/26/2010 3:20 AM, harry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 24, 5:41 pm, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Are there auto-changeover propane regulators (or separate
>>>>>>>>> auto-changeover
>>>>>>>>> devices) for fixed (2x 1000 gallon) tanks? The propane company
>>>>>>>>> putting in
>>>>>>>>> my tanks had not heard of this, and Google searches turn up only
>>>>>>>>> ones for
>>>>>>>>> small RV tanks. Ideally something with a remote indicator would be
>>>>>>>>> nice;
>>>>>>>>> I could arrange for the computer to email me to call for a
>>>>>>>>> delivery...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan Lanciani
>>>>>>>>> ddl@danlan.*com
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a reson you can't use the rv ones? Are you using the same
>>>>>>>> pressure? I've not seen any with remote indicators though.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> there is ONE BIG reason you can't RV tanks on a generator of any
>>>>>>> size.
>>>>>>> (10Kw) they are Vapor withdraw type tanks and they don't have enough
>>>>>>> surface area to allow the propane liquid to boil off into gas,
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> freezing up the tank.... duh... anyone who has ever tried it knows
>>>>>>> this...
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is true. We run cars on propane over here. The liquid propane
>>>>>> is vapourised in a heat exchange device that draws water from the
>>>>>> coolant jacket of the IC engine. Many are converted from petrol,
>>>>>> there is an annular ring fitted between the carburretor and the inlet
>>>>>> manifold that injects the gas through a ring of holes. Needle jet
>>>>>> controls the gas on the liquid side of the vapouriser device.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here, Alabama Gas has been running their vehicles on natural gas for
>>>>> many years. You can see the CNG tanks on the beds of their service
>>>>> trucks. Those vehicles have a similar setup to those that run on
>>>>> Propane.
>>>>>
>>>>> TDD- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> Aha. There is a difference .The natural gas is just compressed. The
>>>> propane is liquid and has to be evaporated off. I suppose in a warm
>>>> climate you might not need an evaporator but even here in the UK you
>>>> do.
>>>> In the hospital where I worked we had liquid oxygen. It held about
>>>> three tons of LOXWe even needed a heat exchanger on that to evaporate
>>>> the LOX. It was just like a big car radiator. Even so it used to
>>>> freeze up. We had to clear the ice off with a steam lance in certain
>>>> weather conditions.
>>>
>>>You know, I'm not sure if the gas company is not liquefying the natural
>>>gas, the tanks look very substantial and the technology for liquefying
>>>NG is quite mature. I know some guys who work for Alabama gas and I will
>>>ask them about it. In another thread there was a discussion about O2 and
>>>the tanks. I mentioned the rather large LOX tank at the University
>>>Hospital complex here in town that I want to know more about.
>>
>> Unlike propane, natural gas can't be in the liquid state at room
>> temperature,
>> so must be transported cryogenically or compressed under extreme pressure.
>> Cryogenics are complicated, heavy, and require energy themselves. A
>> highly
>> compressed flammable gas isn't exactly a good vehicle fuel either; not
>> enough
>> can be carried safely.
>Wrong! Where do you idiots get this information?