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Posted by Vaughn on October 28, 2012, 10:22 pm
 
On 10/28/2012 5:06 PM, manfromvie@gmail.com wrote:

OK.  Have it your way.

Vaughn


Posted by mike on October 28, 2012, 11:04 pm
 
On 10/28/2012 2:06 PM, manfromvie@gmail.com wrote:

constructive advice. I am leaning towards a car alternator because they are
easily available, cheap and have the regulator built in. Thank you.


OK, here's how you do it.
First, do the math.

Start your car and decide how many engine RPM you need to get the charge
current you want.
Then measure the diameters of the crankshaft pulley and the alternator
pulley.  Multiply that ratio by the engine RPM to get the alternator RPM.

Decide how many RPM you're willing to pedal and divide that into the
alternator RPM to get the pulley ratio for your exercise bike.
If you can find a pulley that big, you're good to go. If not,
you'll need to split that ratio in two pieces and insert another
idler pulley ratio in between.

Don't know the exact details, but for motorcycle drive,
belt is claimed to be more efficient than chain drive.
You want ALL the efficiency you can get.

Hook the alternator to the a car battery and pedal away.
Stock up on energy bars, liniment and pain relievers.

I don't want to spoil your fun by doing the math, but
calculate the efficiency of the system = energy obtained by discharging
the battery divided by the mechanical energy in.  Pulling a number outa
my forecasting orifice, I'd guess it's like 20%.

Starting with the energy output, you can calculate the pedal force
at the target RPM required to input that much energy.  Multiply that
by 5.  Then double it again, because the force vector varies as the
sine of the angle.  That'll give you an estimate of how hard it will be
to pedal.

Do some research on permanent magnet wind generators.  They'll likely do
better
at low RPM and you won't have to waste a bunch of energy in the field
excitation, but the conclusion will be the same.

Report your results.

Posted by Dave on November 1, 2012, 11:07 am
 My hand rechargeable LED flashlight has a series of gears such that each
turn of the handle results in the final gear which drives the generator
spinning 36 times.  Could a system such as this be scaled up for use with
the exercise bike?

Dave

Posted by mike on November 1, 2012, 5:45 pm
 On 11/1/2012 4:07 AM, Dave wrote:

It's not rocket science.  Simply scale everything up.
EVERYTHING, including the force it takes to turn the crank.
You're getting maybe a watt now...if you crank it really fast...
If you want 100 watts, plan on using 100x the force to turn
the crank.
Simple...

Posted by Daniel who wants to know on October 29, 2012, 12:30 am
 
Too late. As has been said before we humans are only good for a couple
hundred watts max, and a car alternator is only 50% efficient, hence it is
still a bad idea.


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