Posted by Jim Wilkins on January 1, 2011, 6:11 pm
> ...Small voltage was clearly detected that rose as I got closer
> > to the leak.
> Interesting! I do much the same thing to detect bad grounds and bad neutral
> connections. ...>
> Vaughn
I found inner plane shorts in new circuit boards that way. With 1 Amp
from a lab supply applied, 1 mV is 1 milliOhm. After finding one we
charged up a big 20V computer cap and zapped it.
When I had trouble with the neutral at the meter box voltage readings
were too erratic to be useful, but an Amprobe found 30 A in the pipe
to an outside faucet screwed to the aluminum siding.
jsw
Posted by Josepi on January 1, 2011, 8:08 pm
We had a linesman find a 120v streetlighter fault with his testicals. He
could feel the fault zone as he walked over it and was right when they dug
it up.
That's a lot of current!
Jim Wilkins wrote:
I found inner plane shorts in new circuit boards that way. With 1 Amp
from a lab supply applied, 1 mV is 1 milliOhm. After finding one we
charged up a big 20V computer cap and zapped it.
When I had trouble with the neutral at the meter box voltage readings
were too erratic to be useful, but an Amprobe found 30 A in the pipe
to an outside faucet screwed to the aluminum siding.
Posted by amdx on January 5, 2011, 1:01 pm
> I've been slowly loosing efficiency (seemingling) in my hydro system over
> the past few months which is annoying.
> I"m not an engineer like you guys but do my best. I have two xantrex
> (trace) charge controllers in my system. The first takes the
> hydroelectric generation and a couple of solar panels to the battery
> bank. This is set in equalization mode (so no matter what it sends a
> charge to the batteries no matter what the charge level of the
> batteries). The second is set to dump the load to a giant resister for
> when *it* thinks the batteries are fully charged. So the first charge
> controller just gets the voltage right.. the second manages the batteries
> and does the dump.
Why not use the dump to heat water?
To locate your poor connections use a voltmeter on a low volt scale.
Put one lead on each side of the connection and note the voltage.
After you check a few connections you will get a feel for what is normal.
I don't know at what voltage you would call out a poor connection, it
depends
on the current you have flowing. My guess is your looking in the 10ths of a
volt range,
but you could find a bad connection have 1 volt + across it.
MikeK
Posted by z on January 6, 2011, 7:36 am
>
>> I've been slowly loosing efficiency (seemingling) in my hydro system
>> over the past few months which is annoying.
>>
>> I"m not an engineer like you guys but do my best. I have two xantrex
>> (trace) charge controllers in my system. The first takes the
>> hydroelectric generation and a couple of solar panels to the battery
>> bank. This is set in equalization mode (so no matter what it sends a
>> charge to the batteries no matter what the charge level of the
>> batteries). The second is set to dump the load to a giant resister
>> for when *it* thinks the batteries are fully charged. So the first
>> charge controller just gets the voltage right.. the second manages
>> the batteries and does the dump.
>>
> Why not use the dump to heat water?
I had done that orginally but the heater element I had wasn't big enough
to handle the load. My resister is in my greenhouse (which is about a
yard from the hydro) with aluminum housing. The idea was that it would
give heat to the greenhouse and let me grow tomatoes a bit longer but the
reality is that the dump load isn't used all that much. It's only
dumping maybe a few hours in the early morning when the battery bank is
fully charged after the turbine runs all night. So not a lot of spare
energy really. Not enough heat to do anything with given my near
constant draw.
> To locate your poor connections use a voltmeter on a low volt scale.
> Put one lead on each side of the connection and note the voltage.
> After you check a few connections you will get a feel for what is
> normal. I don't know at what voltage you would call out a poor
> connection, it depends
> on the current you have flowing. My guess is your looking in the 10ths
> of a volt range,
> but you could find a bad connection have 1 volt + across it.
thanks I tracked down the big loss .. which was the first connection
between the turbine and the first cut off switch. I think I got it
sorted out now .. things are mostly back to normal judging from the
meter.
cheers
-zachary
> MikeK
>
>
Posted by Pete C. on January 6, 2011, 4:08 pm
z wrote:
>
>
> >
> >> I've been slowly loosing efficiency (seemingling) in my hydro system
> >> over the past few months which is annoying.
> >>
> >> I"m not an engineer like you guys but do my best. I have two xantrex
> >> (trace) charge controllers in my system. The first takes the
> >> hydroelectric generation and a couple of solar panels to the battery
> >> bank. This is set in equalization mode (so no matter what it sends a
> >> charge to the batteries no matter what the charge level of the
> >> batteries). The second is set to dump the load to a giant resister
> >> for when *it* thinks the batteries are fully charged. So the first
> >> charge controller just gets the voltage right.. the second manages
> >> the batteries and does the dump.
> >>
> > Why not use the dump to heat water?
>
> I had done that orginally but the heater element I had wasn't big enough
> to handle the load. My resister is in my greenhouse (which is about a
> yard from the hydro) with aluminum housing. The idea was that it would
> give heat to the greenhouse and let me grow tomatoes a bit longer but the
> reality is that the dump load isn't used all that much. It's only
> dumping maybe a few hours in the early morning when the battery bank is
> fully charged after the turbine runs all night. So not a lot of spare
> energy really. Not enough heat to do anything with given my near
> constant draw.
If you're feeding the turbine from a dammed source, have you considered
automatically throttling the feed during periods of light load in order
to build more volume behind the dam?
> > to the leak.
> Interesting! I do much the same thing to detect bad grounds and bad neutral
> connections. ...>
> Vaughn