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Posted by Jim Wilkins on April 18, 2009, 10:55 pm

My all-wheel-drive Honda CRV, about the same size as the Liberty,
averages 26MPG around town and 28-29 on trips to Maine with 3 adults
and luggage. The Honda has a smaller engine and lower towing capacity
but it isn't otherwise much different, I've parked beside a Liberty to

The surprising comparison was with a Land Rover Freelander, which was
almost a Xerox copy of the Honda. The CRV was definitely first, it's
an update of the ~1983 Civic wagon.

The Liberty looks better.

Jim Wilkins

Posted by Steve Ackman on April 20, 2009, 2:46 pm
on Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:55:44 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins, KB1DAL@gmail.com

  According to a web page I just pulled up, the curb
weight of the CR-V is 2875 lbs. -- hardly "about the
same size" as a 4233 lb. vehicle when it comes to
mpg comparisons.
  You want CONTRAST...  Our little "convoy" consisted
of the Jeep and a 2008 Dodge PU with 4.7L V8 gasoline
engine towing a 6000 lb. trailer and carrying another
1000+ lbs of cargo.  I almost don't want to even know
what the average mileage was, but fighting a nasty
headwind in OK, we had a tank of 6.7 mpg, and on the
other end of the scale, there was a tank where we got
9.8 mpg.  I'm sure some LT tires would easily have
squeezed several more percent out of that (certainly
has on past vehicles), but the OEM P265/70-17's had
less than 3000 miles on them, so I wasn't ready to
switch to LT's quite yet.

  It's all in the eye of the beholder.  ;-)

  I was hoping for some comparisons where the only
variable was the engine; direct diesel to gas contrast.
Between manufacturers/models you've got aerodynamics,
weight, gearing, tires, etc.  

  Hard to believe that nobody who reads this group
has a V6 Liberty.

Posted by Jim Wilkins on April 20, 2009, 4:18 pm

I parked next to a new one yesterday, it's about 6" taller than the
CRV. A little Google suggests 18MPG is real and the price of a heavy
"Trail Rated" drive train. Mine's good for mud and snow but I wouldn't
drag it across rocks.

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