Posted by jamievt on December 17, 2007, 5:41 pm
Hi
I'm pulling together a system with wind and hydro and had some basic
questions.
I have a "stream engine", a windmill, a xantrex c60, an inverter and
some batteries.
From what I gather, I hook the generators to the batteries.
Connecting all positives and all negatives (series?)
Then I connect the c60 to the batteries with a dump load to prevent
overcharging (diversion mode).
Then I connect the inverter to the batteries and get AC.
It seems something is missing, like a charge controller for each
generator maybe? Or do the batteries just "control" things for me?
And I'm wondering if the Sentinal Backup Power Source Standby Power
Supply -- 4.8 kW, Model# 2400WC found in nothern tools is worth the
money versus just getting the parts.
Thanks
Jamie
Posted by z on December 17, 2007, 6:09 pm
8e7c91c7ce26@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> Hi
>
> I'm pulling together a system with wind and hydro and had some basic
> questions.
>
> I have a "stream engine", a windmill, a xantrex c60, an inverter and
> some batteries.
>
> From what I gather, I hook the generators to the batteries.
> Connecting all positives and all negatives (series?)
>
> Then I connect the c60 to the batteries with a dump load to prevent
> overcharging (diversion mode).
>
> Then I connect the inverter to the batteries and get AC.
>
> It seems something is missing, like a charge controller for each
> generator maybe? Or do the batteries just "control" things for me?
>
> And I'm wondering if the Sentinal Backup Power Source Standby Power
> Supply -- 4.8 kW, Model# 2400WC found in nothern tools is worth the
> money versus just getting the parts.
>
> Thanks
> Jamie
The owners manual for the c60 describes what you need to do:
download here
http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/72/p/docs/pt/3/product.asp
generators --> c60 --> batteries --> inverter
|--> diversion
Posted by Solar Flare on December 17, 2007, 7:21 pm
Wrong. You cannot connect a diversion load after the inverter. If a
breaker pops, something blows or the C60 decides the batteries have
enough charge the wind turbine will run wild, ruin itself, the C60 and
possibly the batteries.
I doubt the C60 can handle a windmill input. I think Xantrex has
retracted some of their stupidity on this one. Most charger inputs
cannot handle the few hundred volts of input.
> 8e7c91c7ce26@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm pulling together a system with wind and hydro and had some
>> basic
>> questions.
>>
>> I have a "stream engine", a windmill, a xantrex c60, an inverter
>> and
>> some batteries.
>>
>> From what I gather, I hook the generators to the batteries.
>> Connecting all positives and all negatives (series?)
>>
>> Then I connect the c60 to the batteries with a dump load to prevent
>> overcharging (diversion mode).
>>
>> Then I connect the inverter to the batteries and get AC.
>>
>> It seems something is missing, like a charge controller for each
>> generator maybe? Or do the batteries just "control" things for me?
>>
>> And I'm wondering if the Sentinal Backup Power Source Standby Power
>> Supply -- 4.8 kW, Model# 2400WC found in nothern tools is worth the
>> money versus just getting the parts.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jamie
> The owners manual for the c60 describes what you need to do:
> download here
> http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/72/p/docs/pt/3/product.asp
> generators --> c60 --> batteries --> inverter
> |--> diversion
Posted by z on December 17, 2007, 7:29 pm
> Wrong. You cannot connect a diversion load after the inverter. If a
> breaker pops, something blows or the C60 decides the batteries have
> enough charge the wind turbine will run wild, ruin itself, the C60 and
> possibly the batteries.
>
Microsoft OE probably doesn't use a fixed font. Maybe you should get a
better news reader. I put the diversion from the c60 before the
inverter.
In any case RTFM --
> I doubt the C60 can handle a windmill input. I think Xantrex has
> retracted some of their stupidity on this one. Most charger inputs
> cannot handle the few hundred volts of input.
>
>
>> 8e7c91c7ce26@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm pulling together a system with wind and hydro and had some
>>> basic
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> I have a "stream engine", a windmill, a xantrex c60, an inverter
>>> and
>>> some batteries.
>>>
>>> From what I gather, I hook the generators to the batteries.
>>> Connecting all positives and all negatives (series?)
>>>
>>> Then I connect the c60 to the batteries with a dump load to prevent
>>> overcharging (diversion mode).
>>>
>>> Then I connect the inverter to the batteries and get AC.
>>>
>>> It seems something is missing, like a charge controller for each
>>> generator maybe? Or do the batteries just "control" things for me?
>>>
>>> And I'm wondering if the Sentinal Backup Power Source Standby Power
>>> Supply -- 4.8 kW, Model# 2400WC found in nothern tools is worth the
>>> money versus just getting the parts.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jamie
>>
>>
>> The owners manual for the c60 describes what you need to do:
>> download here
>> http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/72/p/docs/pt/3/product.asp
>>
>> generators --> c60 --> batteries --> inverter
>> |--> diversion
>
>
>
Posted by Solar Flare on December 17, 2007, 8:08 pm
ooops. sorry. My bad. I thought the diversion load was last inline.
**SIGH** text mediums. Time to switch to HTML here.
Fuck off with the OE bullshit. It uses any font/style I choose.
...and it does threading correctly, unlike Forte crap that causes so
many Usenet fights due to threading errors.
Best of luck.
>> Wrong. You cannot connect a diversion load after the inverter. If a
>> breaker pops, something blows or the C60 decides the batteries have
>> enough charge the wind turbine will run wild, ruin itself, the C60
>> and
>> possibly the batteries.
>>
> Microsoft OE probably doesn't use a fixed font. Maybe you should
> get a
> better news reader. I put the diversion from the c60 before the
> inverter.
> In any case RTFM --
>> I doubt the C60 can handle a windmill input. I think Xantrex has
>> retracted some of their stupidity on this one. Most charger inputs
>> cannot handle the few hundred volts of input.
>>
>>
>>> 8e7c91c7ce26@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I'm pulling together a system with wind and hydro and had some
>>>> basic
>>>> questions.
>>>>
>>>> I have a "stream engine", a windmill, a xantrex c60, an inverter
>>>> and
>>>> some batteries.
>>>>
>>>> From what I gather, I hook the generators to the batteries.
>>>> Connecting all positives and all negatives (series?)
>>>>
>>>> Then I connect the c60 to the batteries with a dump load to
>>>> prevent
>>>> overcharging (diversion mode).
>>>>
>>>> Then I connect the inverter to the batteries and get AC.
>>>>
>>>> It seems something is missing, like a charge controller for each
>>>> generator maybe? Or do the batteries just "control" things for
>>>> me?
>>>>
>>>> And I'm wondering if the Sentinal Backup Power Source Standby
>>>> Power
>>>> Supply -- 4.8 kW, Model# 2400WC found in nothern tools is worth
>>>> the
>>>> money versus just getting the parts.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>> The owners manual for the c60 describes what you need to do:
>>> download here
>>> http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/72/p/docs/pt/3/product.asp
>>>
>>> generators --> c60 --> batteries --> inverter
>>> |--> diversion
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> I'm pulling together a system with wind and hydro and had some basic
> questions.
>
> I have a "stream engine", a windmill, a xantrex c60, an inverter and
> some batteries.
>
> From what I gather, I hook the generators to the batteries.
> Connecting all positives and all negatives (series?)
>
> Then I connect the c60 to the batteries with a dump load to prevent
> overcharging (diversion mode).
>
> Then I connect the inverter to the batteries and get AC.
>
> It seems something is missing, like a charge controller for each
> generator maybe? Or do the batteries just "control" things for me?
>
> And I'm wondering if the Sentinal Backup Power Source Standby Power
> Supply -- 4.8 kW, Model# 2400WC found in nothern tools is worth the
> money versus just getting the parts.
>
> Thanks
> Jamie