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Posted by Vaughn Simon on December 5, 2005, 12:06 pm
 




     I suggest that you speak with a bit more precision.  The Prius does not
"get" 60/51/55 mpg any more than the Camry "gets" 24/34/27.  You are
apparently quoting EPA figures, which are better used for comparison between
vehicles than as an estimate of real-world gas mileage.  The only way to
"get" the EPA mileage is to mount your car on a fixed dyno and drive the EPA
cycle precisely.

     Actually, a recent Consumers Digest article showed that real-world gas
mileage for hybrids trails their EPA mileage by a larger percentage than
conventional vehicles.  As I recall, the Civic is the biggest offender,
missing its EPA mileage by some 25%.

     I have nothing against hybrids, the Prius in particular is an
engineering work of art.   I may well own a hybrid someday, but we owe it to
ourselves to keep reality firmly in mind.

  Vaughn



Posted by grumtac on December 5, 2005, 1:26 pm
 



Vaughn Simon wrote:


Yep...... This is where people get in trouble. Some of "Those figures"
are really wacked. A while back, someone pointed to a "hybrid website",
which had a "comparison" of sorts that would allow you to put in your
vehicle and compare it to the Prius.

Problem is, the Prius numbers displayed with the wind at its back, and
every other vehicle must have been listed with MPG's into a 100 MPH
headwind. The data was just plain Wrong, as is often the case. Yet,
some people choose to really believe it.

The best way to see what something REALLY gets is to know a few
trustworthy and truthful people (seems many tend to inflate reality) or
search the web for USERS who make statements about their mileage. THEN,
you still have to weigh things out accordingly.

I have not seen references from newsgroup contibutors that indicate
routinely 60MPG city........ I HAVE seen a LOT of people who are LESS
than thrilled because they themselves have not been able to reach the
"numbers" proclaimed by the manufacturer.

The first poster IS correct to that extent.... Sure, its wonderful,
great, but as he likely knows, there were some mid 80's plain jane cars
that could do 45 on the road, no batteries, no radical electronics, no
future radical costs. I myself wonder what those cars will be worth
when the battery pack is finally kapuut. After all, if people are SO
energy aware, they should be in favor of KEEPING a car like that ON the
road rather than wasting energy melting it down to make a new one.

It will be interesting to say the least, to see where it goes.... Could
be the way of the Renault Fuego or Yugo....

Grummy


Posted by John Gilmer on December 5, 2005, 4:50 pm
 

Maybe it's time for folks to pull that  old practical joke whereby the joker
secretly adds some gas every day to the gas tank of the guy who like to brag
about his mileage.   The "free" gas continue until even the "victim" almost
doesn't believe his mileage numbers.

THEN the joker starts taking gas OUT of the victim's car.



Posted by grumtac on December 6, 2005, 8:36 am
 


John Gilmer wrote:

Ya, but by todays laws and quick to jump conclusions cops, you'll be
looking down the barrel of a pistol and be in handcuffs in no time flat
!

In the end, if you can convince them it was just a joke rather than
theft, you'll get a ticket for disorderly conduct just for wasting
their time. I want to see you argue that you were NOT stealing gas on
the second half of that joke ! <G>

It is truly a changed world.......

Grummy


Posted by Dave Hinz on December 6, 2005, 10:17 am
 


My dad claims to have done that to the neighbor in the 1970s.


Well, he just stopped, and then asked Bob why he hadn't said anything
about his gas mileage lately.

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