Posted by Tim Williams on June 23, 2010, 3:34 pm
> ooops
> Electrostatic charges are DC!
And magnetic charges aren't?
Tell me, can you make a continuous (i.e. DC) electrostatic charge =
without oscillating components? Can you make a continuous =
electromagnetic charge without parts oscillating (homopolar aside)?
I thought not :)
> When they discharge the electron "inertia" usually makes them overshoot the
> equalibrium and then over shoot back giving an AC with high frequencies and
> lots of RFI.
>
> ready for the RFI coming?
No, RFI has nothing to do with it.
All electrostatic generators require charge transfer, e.g. brushes, =
spark gaps, etc. These act in the same manner as a commutator.
Tim
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Posted by Josepi on June 23, 2010, 4:09 pm
RFI count: 1
And magnetic charges aren't?
Tell me, can you make a continuous (i.e. DC) electrostatic charge without
oscillating components? Can you make a continuous electromagnetic charge
without parts oscillating (homopolar aside)?
I thought not :)
No, RFI has nothing to do with it.
All electrostatic generators require charge transfer, e.g. brushes, spark
gaps, etc. These act in the same manner as a commutator.
Tim
Posted by Jim Wilkins on June 23, 2010, 2:50 am
> >> *Cough*, homopolar generator?
> ...
> Tim
A Wimshurst machine generates DC from a rotor without a commutator.
jsw
Posted by Tim Williams on June 23, 2010, 3:37 pm
> A Wimshurst machine generates DC from a rotor without a commutator.
Ah, but it has brushes. If it didn't need commutation, it wouldn't need =
a segmented rotor either -- same purpose.
As far as I know, the homopolar generator is the ONLY generator with a =
rotating construction, contiguous rotor and DC output.
It's trivial to make DC from a linear motor (cf. railgun), of course, =
but reality doesn't allow you infinite rails or magnets.
Tim
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Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk.
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Posted by Josepi on June 23, 2010, 4:23 pm
There is **no** commutation (as Jim stated) and no polarity change. Brushes
do not make commutation.
It generates a DC charge.
Here, I'll make it a little easier for you to look it up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimshurst_machine
Ah, but it has brushes. If it didn't need commutation, it wouldn't need a
segmented rotor either -- same purpose.
As far as I know, the homopolar generator is the ONLY generator with a
rotating construction, contiguous rotor and DC output.
It's trivial to make DC from a linear motor (cf. railgun), of course, but
reality doesn't allow you infinite rails or magnets.
Tim
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> A Wimshurst machine generates DC from a rotor without a commutator.
> Electrostatic charges are DC!