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Posted by Ron Rosenfeld on October 4, 2010, 4:41 pm
 
On 1 Oct 2010 22:00:22 GMT, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:


I see no one has answered your question.  I own a buried propane tank
in NH, but I did not do the installation.  It was done years ago and,
although the propane company thought they owned it, they did not have
any documentation.  Since I did not want to pay the yearly rental, as
I would be using far less than one tank full per year, they decided to
just transfer ownership to me.

The tank was originally used to fuel a 400,000 btu heater for an
inground pool.  However, we do not use the pool or the heater.  I use
it solely to fuel a backup generator.  Unless we have a long power
outage (which does occur some years), my annual usage is minimal.

As I recall, when I was dealing with all this, there was a firm in
Nashua who did installations, but I can't recall their name.  I had
the "line work" from the propane tank to the generator done by Energy
North Propane.  They may know where you can purchase a tank; I don't
know if they will arrange for underground installation.  You are
probably aware of this but I should emphasize that the tanks for
inground and aboveground installation are different.  And you cannot
install and above ground tank in the ground.

You will need to check with your town about permits.  An inspection by
the Town was required where I live.

Posted by Dan Lanciani on October 5, 2010, 1:06 am
 
Rosenfeld) writes:

| I see no one has answered your question.

:(

| I own a buried propane tank
| in NH, but I did not do the installation.  It was done years ago and,
| although the propane company thought they owned it, they did not have
| any documentation.  Since I did not want to pay the yearly rental, as
| I would be using far less than one tank full per year, they decided to
| just transfer ownership to me.

Lucky you. :)

| The tank was originally used to fuel a 400,000 btu heater for an
| inground pool.  However, we do not use the pool or the heater.  I use
| it solely to fuel a backup generator.  Unless we have a long power
| outage (which does occur some years), my annual usage is minimal.

I expect heavy usage--it's a big old house and my plans to insulate
will take a while to implement.  I'm also getting a generator (thinking
of a Kohler 15RES) but I don't have any experience with power reliability
in the area.

| As I recall, when I was dealing with all this, there was a firm in
| Nashua who did installations, but I can't recall their name.  I had
| the "line work" from the propane tank to the generator done by Energy
| North Propane.

Interesting; they were the first ones I called.  They were good initially
when I told them I wanted two 1000 gallon underground tanks.  Said they
would put them in and "light up my appliances" all at no charge to me.
But when I said that I wanted to own the tanks things got a little more
complicated and I had to talk to somebody else.  He quoted the price of
the tanks themselves at $900 each but he didn't think I should buy them.
We got as far as a sight visit, but I think he still thought that I would
give in and rent.

I explained that I wanted a remote level readout with alarm contacts for my
computer.  He kept talking about how I could access my level over the Internet
from their server and how they could program their "modem" to dial me or
something like that.  I said that I was talking about a readout that was
completely local and did not depend on their service at all.  I gave him
a copy of the Taylor catalog with the appropriate product highlighted.  He
was supposed to get back to me with a quote for the whole job but nothing
happened and I realized that he hadn't even given me a card or contact
information.

If this is really such a big problem these days I'll go with oil in
(obviously) above-ground tanks and a diesel generator.  Not sure what
I'll do about the stove.

                Dan Lanciani
                ddl@danlan.*com

Posted by Ron Rosenfeld on October 5, 2010, 1:50 am
 On 5 Oct 2010 01:06:07 GMT, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:

Rosenfeld) writes:

If I had heavy enough usage that the rental would not have been an
issue, I would have had them own it.  

Posted by Jim Wilkins on October 5, 2010, 2:01 am
 On Oct 4, 9:06pm, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:

High winds blow down trees, causing local outages that they usually
fix in a few hours. Maybe once a decade a winter ice storm can take
out power for a week.


jsw

Posted by enigma on October 8, 2010, 2:15 pm
 m:


 which perfectly explains why we were without power for 9 days in 08 &
7 days in 09... and rates have increased nearly 14% because they didn't
have insurance for ice (it cost too much) or crews to trim trees by the
lines and now have to pay the crews that were imported to fix their
stupid mistakes...
 at any rate, i have an old house & it works just fine when the power
is out, so it's only an issue when i've got chicks in incubators (but
that gives me priority when they restore power).
lee

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