Posted by Ulysses on August 28, 2009, 3:02 pm
> >
> > I have read about these de-sulfation units and have always wondered if
> > they actually work?
> >
> > Be interesting to see of anyone comes up and says they do.
> It won't be me. I have always been very suspicious of any gadget or
> magic potion that is supposed to bring batteries back to life. I have
never
> found any to be worth my time. Pulse de-sulfation may, or may not, extend
> the life of a battery, but I am particularly sceptical of any claims that
> they will "repair" a bad battery. (Others may have other opinions)
My Smart Charger (12 volts) has a built-in desulfate cycle. I have to admit
that I have seen some improvement by running it for several sessions (24
hours each) on a bad deep cycle flooded battery. But I sure could not get
it to recover a battery that was sulfated from being undercharged. So yes,
I was able to get the SG up a little higher, but no, the battery was still
not usable (in any practical sense).
> On the other hand, purpose-made lead-acid battery maintainers are
> wonderful money & battery saving gadgets.
> Vaughn
Posted by Scott Dorsey on August 28, 2009, 4:28 pm
> It won't be me. I have always been very suspicious of any gadget or
>magic potion that is supposed to bring batteries back to life. I have never
>found any to be worth my time. Pulse de-sulfation may, or may not, extend
>the life of a battery, but I am particularly sceptical of any claims that
>they will "repair" a bad battery. (Others may have other opinions)
They will not repair a bad battery. Once there is gunk on the plates and
the battery resistance has started to climb, the battery is dead.
> On the other hand, purpose-made lead-acid battery maintainers are
>wonderful money & battery saving gadgets.
The pulse desulfation is a typical feature of the battery maintaining devices,
and they prevent sulfation from happening in the first place.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Posted by Scott Dorsey on August 28, 2009, 4:27 pm
>I have read about these de-sulfation units and have always wondered if they
>actually work?
>Be interesting to see of anyone comes up and says they do.
Yes. Use one.
Most large UPS systems and big lighting charging systems now use the same
process.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Posted by harry on August 29, 2009, 6:14 pm
On Aug 27, 2:53 pm, klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
> >what is the lower limit for an otherwise perfect lead-acid battery when it
should be
> >charged, if stored for an extended time?
> >same question for a sealed AGM battery.
> >normally, I've checked both once a month and if voltage is below 12.5,
connected a
> >trickle charger for a day or two.
> If it's a lead-acid battery, drain it and store it dry, then refill it when
> you need it.
> If it's a sealed battery, use a battery tender on it.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
If it's lead acid, yes drain if you want to store it for a long
period. But charge it up first and then drain it and then wash out
with distilled water.
The best plan is to sell it, & buy a new one when you need one.
Even when new, they have a limited shelf life seven stored dry.
Posted by Martin Riddle on August 27, 2009, 10:03 pm
> what is the lower limit for an otherwise perfect lead-acid battery
> when it should be charged, if stored for an extended time?
> same question for a sealed AGM battery.
> normally, I've checked both once a month and if voltage is below 12.5,
> connected a trickle charger for a day or two.
12.65v is a fully charged Lead acid battery
12.45v is State of charge of 75%
So your keeping your battery over 75% charged by keeping the voltage
above 12.5v, which should be fine.
For AGM I would consult the Mfg.
Cheers
> > I have read about these de-sulfation units and have always wondered if
> > they actually work?
> >
> > Be interesting to see of anyone comes up and says they do.
> It won't be me. I have always been very suspicious of any gadget or
> magic potion that is supposed to bring batteries back to life. I have
never
> found any to be worth my time. Pulse de-sulfation may, or may not, extend
> the life of a battery, but I am particularly sceptical of any claims that
> they will "repair" a bad battery. (Others may have other opinions)