Posted by Eeyore on May 17, 2009, 8:34 pm
wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net wrote:
> >A US 120V 15A socket can supply 1.8 kW.
> A common 240V socket can supply... <sigh> why bother? It's all stuff
> you should well know if you were debating in good faith.
> > So to recharge the battery from flat would take 50/1.8
> >hours = ~ 28 hours. Not very practical I think you'll agree.
> Just another fractional truth from the master of such. The fact is
> that a useful electric vehicle for many could be practically charged
> overnight.
Not from a standard wall socket.
Graham
Posted by residualselfimage1999 on May 17, 2009, 12:27 pm
wrote:
> residualselfimage1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The E6 will go into mass production in China in 2010 and
> > BYD plans to introduce the E6 to the USA in 2011. For
> > a online video of the E6 see
> >http://engineeringtv.com/blogs/etv/archive/2009/03/10/byd-e6-pure-ele ...
> If you plan to use that 250 mi range, you'll need your own 3 phase supply to recharge it !
> I'll believe it when I see it.
> Graham
While the video doesn't say it, from another source I know that the
E6 has two recharging systems onboard - one is for fast recharging
the other is slow recharging. Its LiFePO4 battery last longer if the
slow recharger is used (which can use a regular househould current).
The fast recharger needs a special external unit to recharge it but
I don't remember the details about how it worked.
The original query for this thread/posting only cited a need for
commuting with the vehicle which could swap batteries that
were being recharging at night at home. The E6 batteries are
located in bottom chassis of the vehicle and it would require a
mechanical lift similar to one demostrated by the video I
posted previously by "Better Place."
A 200 mile range would be adequate for most daily
commuters; however, in general, EVs are not particular
practical as a as long range travel because of their recharging
time and limited range.
Posted by user on May 17, 2009, 4:57 pm
residualselfimage1999@gmail.com wrote:
> wrote:
>> residualselfimage1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> The E6 will go into mass production in China in 2010 and
>>> BYD plans to introduce the E6 to the USA in 2011. For
>>> a online video of the E6 see
>>> http://engineeringtv.com/blogs/etv/archive/2009/03/10/byd-e6-pure-ele ...
>> If you plan to use that 250 mi range, you'll need your own 3 phase supply to
recharge it !
>>
>> I'll believe it when I see it.
>>
>> Graham
>
>
> While the video doesn't say it, from another source I know that the
> E6 has two recharging systems onboard - one is for fast recharging
> the other is slow recharging. Its LiFePO4 battery last longer if the
> slow recharger is used (which can use a regular househould current).
> The fast recharger needs a special external unit to recharge it but
> I don't remember the details about how it worked.
>
> The original query for this thread/posting only cited a need for
> commuting with the vehicle which could swap batteries that
> were being recharging at night at home. The E6 batteries are
> located in bottom chassis of the vehicle and it would require a
> mechanical lift similar to one demostrated by the video I
> posted previously by "Better Place."
>
> A 200 mile range would be adequate for most daily
> commuters; however, in general, EVs are not particular
> practical as a as long range travel because of their recharging
> time and limited range.
>
Even a fifty mile range is good enough for commuters, the average daily
commute is only about 30 miles in the USA
Posted by Eeyore on May 17, 2009, 8:48 pm
user@domain.invalid wrote:
> Even a fifty mile range is good enough for commuters, the average daily
> commute is only about 30 miles in the USA.
And the day you need to go 60 miles ? This is why the hybrid is so much more
sensible.
Graham
Posted by user on May 17, 2009, 9:45 pm
Eeyore wrote:
>
> user@domain.invalid wrote:
>
>> Even a fifty mile range is good enough for commuters, the average daily
>> commute is only about 30 miles in the USA.
>
> And the day you need to go 60 miles ? This is why the hybrid is so much more
sensible.
>
> Graham
>
>
You take the other ice car. The average North American family has more
than one vehicle. Use the electric for what it's best suited, urban
driving. I like hybrids as well, but this thread is about electric cars.
In an urban setting an electric for commuting makes sense, especailly
when charging stations are installed.
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> A common 240V socket can supply... <sigh> why bother? It's all stuff
> you should well know if you were debating in good faith.
> > So to recharge the battery from flat would take 50/1.8
> >hours = ~ 28 hours. Not very practical I think you'll agree.
> Just another fractional truth from the master of such. The fact is
> that a useful electric vehicle for many could be practically charged
> overnight.