Posted by vaughn on May 17, 2009, 10:36 pm
But not all of us are average. The first thing we did when we were both
finally retired was to downsize to a single car. Our "second car" is a
For us either a plug-in hybrid, or perhaps a strategy of owning an EV &
renting a gasoline vehicle for longer trips, will be big considerations when
we finally use up our present Honda. Unfortunately for the auto industry,
that decision is years in the future.
Posted by user on May 18, 2009, 12:07 am
No, maybe you are not average, but the fact remains for many people two,
vehicles are the norm. We have one vehicle, but I bike everywhere around
town, mainly because our small city is set up for it. My wife's commute
is less than five miles, and the train station is just two miles away.
The whole city is only four square miles, most of our friends live
within 16 miles of our home, so in our case, and many other urban
dwellers an electric vehicle makes perfect sense.
Posted by clare on May 18, 2009, 2:16 am
On Sun, 17 May 2009 20:07:37 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Unless you need to drive to the next BIG city for work.
Up here a commute of 60 miles one way is NOTHING - and many drive much
farther than that. Train service is a non-starter at this point -
hoping to get GO service in the next 5 or 10 years and LRT in the
region to join up with GO when it arrives. We get quite a few people
in the high tech business commuting in from Toronto to Waterloo, and
many more commuting from Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge/Guelph to
Toronto because housing costs in his area are a fraction of what they
are in Toronto.
No scheduled air servive from Waterloo Regional to Pearson or Toronto
Posted by user on May 18, 2009, 4:41 am
The average commute in is about 30 miles, your commute is not the norm.
I live "Up Here", the train runs right through Kingston, Belleville,
Trenton, etc. all the way into TO. Move closer to the train.
Train service is a non-starter at this point -
Then the people in TO commuting to Waterloo are nuts, housing is cheaper
in Waterloo. in the other case it's just under 60 miles from Waterloo to
TO, figuring an average of 25 mpg ( which isn't likely in stop & go
traffic) the daily commute costs you over $0 a day at today's gas
prices, about $00.00 a month, not including upkeep of the car, oil
etc.....There goes your saving buying a cheaper house in Waterloo.
According to Stats Can, in Toronto 28.9% commute less than 5KM, 40% less
than 14.9KM, 18% less than 24.9km, so 86.9% of people in the Toronto
area travel less than 15.4 miles to work. The stats are much the same
for other Canadian cities.
Anyone who could afford to fly from Waterloo every bloody day to TO
could afford to live there.
Posted by Eeyore on May 18, 2009, 4:39 pm
The point is that 'averages' are near useless. Almost EVERYONE needs to do more
miles on a regular occasion.
I have commuted at times by walking to the train station and walking the other
My longest regular daily commute to date was 92 mi. Most have been > 30 mi. The
shortest was about 25 mi.