Posted by Morris Dovey on December 2, 2009, 4:11 pm
misterfact@yahoo.com wrote:
> Who knows? Maybe you can answer this:
>
> Would anyone considering installing a wind generator on their
> property be convinced not to do so if an "EXPERT" with a Phd. tells
> him that he will probably only get about ONE watt per sq. meter of
> land that the generator will take up?
It depends, of course, on whether "anyone" is capable of thinking for
themselves.
Even real "experts" are fallible and holding a PhD doesn't imply
omniscience even within the field in which it was conferred.
Have a good worry, I have work to do...
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Posted by misterfact@yahoo.com on December 2, 2009, 5:49 pm
> misterf...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Who knows? Maybe you can answer this:
> > Would anyone considering installing a wind generator on their
> > property be convinced not to do so if an "EXPERT" with a Phd. tells
> > him that he will probably only get about ONE watt per sq. meter of
> > land that the generator will take up?
> It depends, of course, on whether "anyone" is capable of thinking for
> themselves.
> Even real "experts" are fallible and holding a PhD doesn't imply
> omniscience even within the field in which it was conferred.
> Have a good worry, I have work to do...
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Well, thanks for all your expertise and facts about power output from
wind generators.
What kind of work do you do? Alternate energy consulting? !!
Posted by Morris Dovey on December 2, 2009, 6:53 pm
misterfact@yahoo.com wrote:
>> misterf...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Who knows? Maybe you can answer this:
>>> Would anyone considering installing a wind generator on their
>>> property be convinced not to do so if an "EXPERT" with a Phd. tells
>>> him that he will probably only get about ONE watt per sq. meter of
>>> land that the generator will take up?
>> It depends, of course, on whether "anyone" is capable of thinking for
>> themselves.
>>
>> Even real "experts" are fallible and holding a PhD doesn't imply
>> omniscience even within the field in which it was conferred.
>>
>> Have a good worry, I have work to do...
>
> Well, thanks for all your expertise and facts about power output from
> wind generators.
> What kind of work do you do? Alternate energy consulting? !!
You asked for comments on a reported statement. You got comments (and
only comments). If you can't abide critical thought, don't solicit it.
My work? I design and manufacture solar heating panels (my "day job")
and I work to advise and coordinate volunteer R&D teams on five
continents who're working on non-electric solar-powered engines and
pumps. You might find some comfort in knowing that those teams include a
number of folks with PhD degrees in disciplines ranging from Eco-biology
to physics and mechanical engineering.
I recognize that looking for evidence may not be your greatest talent,
so I'll offer these links so you can have a look at what I'm talking about:
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html (solar heating panels)
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/ (engines and pumps)
My consulting days are long past, and I've never claimed to be more than
a learner in any field. In my consulting days, I enjoyed working with
clients like Philips, IBM, NASA, and the Philadelphia Stock Exchange -
from all of whom I learned to not accept the current state of any art as
the limit of what might be possible.
Thank you for asking. :)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Posted by Curbie on December 2, 2009, 11:16 pm
wrote:
>You asked for comments on a reported statement. You got comments (and
>only comments). If you can't abide critical thought, don't solicit it.
Patient to Doctor: Hey Doc, it hurts when I do this?
Doctor to Patient: Don't do that.
If these people would spend half time doing something about problems
as they spend talking about them... Oh well, I guess they think it's
easier trying to talk someone else into fixing problems for them.
Curbie
Posted by Curbie on December 3, 2009, 4:46 am
wrote:
>I dunno... There seem to be a lot of people who have their hearts in the
>right place, but who don't seem to feel that they can actually /do/
>anything to improve the situation other than attempt to bring attention
>to the problems they know about.
Having your heart in the right place is about as high on the priority
list as it gets for me, but I'm not sure that taking it on oneself to
educate the public of a problem in the hope that someone else will fix
it, qualifies.
It seems like there is no contest between the notions of "do as I say,
not as I do" and the pride of achievement you've pointed out. I think
there is a requirement of credentials that is seriously lacking for
some people or some groups that self appoint themselves as public
educators, for me anyway, a history of even small achievements add up
to credibility, but without credibility, they're just proselytizing
their beliefs, achieving nothing accept trying to make themselves feel
better.
It seems to me that whether someone is trying to help others or
themselves defines having your heart in the right place.
BTW, the post from Brian White (posted yesterday) is where the same
guy (I think) that posted that "W" shaped collector I sent.
Curbie
>
> Would anyone considering installing a wind generator on their
> property be convinced not to do so if an "EXPERT" with a Phd. tells
> him that he will probably only get about ONE watt per sq. meter of
> land that the generator will take up?