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Posted by Daniel who wants to know on April 29, 2011, 2:47 am

The car would still run and drive, it would just have a little more power
and get less MPG.  People have put turbochargers on the Prius before and it
runs fine.

The caveats are that the HV ECU knows at all times exactly how much
horsepower the ICE is putting out because it knows ICE RPM and it knows MG1
torque via the amps.  If you try to boost the ICE output the HV ECU simply
commands less throttle opening from the engine computer.

This is also part of the high MPG, the HV ECU knows exactly how much air and
fuel is going into the ICE via the MAF and injection pulse width and it
knows exactly how much power is coming out hence it can calculate the brake
specific fuel consumption and run the ICE at the best point as much as

Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 24, 2011, 1:02 pm
In article

Oh, yeah, Wikipedia--the end-user edited public "encyclopedia" of
whatever anyone chooses to write.

yeah, THAT'S authoritative.

Posted by Michelle Steiner on April 24, 2011, 6:20 pm

The references cited in the footnotes make this information authoritative.

But instead of impugning the data because it's in Wikipedia, how about
trying to demonstrate that it's factually incorrect?

Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

Posted by bwilson4web on May 12, 2011, 7:55 am
Serendipity, the following post showed up in another forum about the
'modern' TDI Jetta, by an advocate:

"Here's 2 cents about my VW current/recent experiences:

1. That timing belt is critical. If you buy a Jetta/Golf and they
can't show you a receipt where the belt, belt tensoner, and idler
pulley were all replaced then spend the money & do it again. Even if
it costs $-800.00. Much cheaper than hunting down a serviceable motor
when something breaks. Spoken from sad personal experience....
2. I own and drive a 2002 manual trans Jetta. My daily commute is
primarily rural where anything over 60mph is unusual. Two lanes mostly
where every opportunity to pass must be taken. So, while I'm not
SpeedRacer, I'm not Granny either. The car always, always gets 45+
mpg. And when I keep my foot out of it I can get it up into the low
3. The car has 256000 miles on it. It doesn't show. And before the
above referenced sad day, the original engine was strong, willing and
used about 1 quart of oil between 6-7000 mile changes. I was looking
forward to bragging about the 300K motor, but....
3. VW built a funky automatic transmission for the Golf/Jetta, called
01M. High mileage cars can be expected to have trans problems that'll
set you back at least $500. My wife drives an 01 TDI Jetta automatic
so, again, I'm speaking from experience. But we were warned so it
wasn't a surprise. If memory serves they put it in 99.5 to 03 cars.
4. I know of 2 sites that cater to the TDI enthusiast. Both can teach
you something and there are "Cars for Sale" pages that might help you
find a car. www tdiclub com and www myturbodiesel com. Some members
have posted useful troubleshooting & how-to documents.
5. I really like my car. Even looking for another for my son.
Stickshift though...."
- LGJetta, Ecomodder.com, May 12, 2011.

Our 2003 Prius, the NHW11, 01-03 model, has never had a timing chain
notice. Yet here is this same period Jetta TDI report about how that
'modern' car needs timing chain maintenance ... and what happens if it
is ignored. Facts and data, reality, again punctures the resident
skeptic's strawman claims. <GRINS>

You know if 'Elmo' wasn't such an ass about it, I probably wouldn't
have noticed this posting in another forum and brought it here to
refute his strawman fabrications and lies. His lack of civility and
skill invites a reality 'smack down'. He is such a tool but useful for
bringing facts and data that show the superiority of the Prius
compared to equivalent 'modern' vehicles.

Bob Wilson

Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 22, 2011, 10:21 am
 In article

Your statement makes no sense.  English, please.

Are you saying that your Toyota dealer told you with OTHER cars that the
timing CHAIN needed replaced?

Please quote timing belt replacement intervals for modern cars that use
timing belts.

You don't, and you won't--because it refutes your precious claim that
"the Prius is better because it doesn't require a timing belt
replacement inside 100K miles like every other car on the road".

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