Posted by bwilson4web on April 10, 2011, 12:27 am
BTW, did you notice Toyota sold or 18,000 in March? Here is the Wall
Street Journal list of the top 20:
The Prius was 14th with a 51% increase in sales. Once again, the
market has spoken.
Posted by David T. Johnson on April 8, 2011, 3:23 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
That's not a "fact" Shagnasty. I've had a Prius for 100k miles and
estimate that I've saved about 1150 gallons of gasoline over that time
versus driving an equivalent non-hybrid vehicle. In addition, the Prius
has not needed any of the following that are typically required on a
non-hybrid vehicle during that mileage period: brake relining,
transmission servicing, starter motor replacement, alternator
replacement, timing belt replacement, serpentine belt replacement, and
battery replacement. I would estimate that not having to do any of
those has saved me an addition several thousand dollars. There's a
reason why there have been a million Prius' sold.
Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52
and Sea Monkey 1.5a
Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 8, 2011, 5:16 pm
WHAT "equivalent non-hybrid vehicle"?
Posted by DA on April 19, 2011, 8:40 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
Dodge Caliber makes a good size/utility comparison to Prius as another
"Small Wagon". Although Caliber has much less cargo volume (16 vs 21
cu.ft.) and slightly more passenger volume (96 vs. 94 cu. ft.), I think
people would be buying those two for the same purposes.
Enter fuel consumption.
Dodge Caliber - 24/32 City/Hwy
Toyota Prius 3rd gen - 51/48 (EPA)
Toyota Prius 2nd gen - 48/45 - my own figures
If all you do is drive on highways (which you don't but it's the worst
case) the difference is at least 13 MPG. In other words you're saving at
least 9 gallons of gas per each 1000 miles driven or, at current prices,
at least $3.75 per thousand miles driven.
Drive enough miles per year and you won't even need to think about saving
Earth to buy a Prius - it just makes economic sense.
And then, of course, try to get a CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission)
on a Caliber - my own personal favorite feature of the Prius. You just
can't. By the time you get down the list of pros and cons, you find
yourself at Toyota's sales lot.
Anyway, Toyota did something right some 15+ years ago. Instead of
feverishly protecting their current interests (which any big corporation
does by default) they decided to find out how to combine their interests
and that of their prospective customers. What a novel idea! I wonder if
at the time they actually believed it would work...
Posted by bwilson4web on April 20, 2011, 11:50 am
On Apr 19, 3:40pm, dirs_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com (DA) wrote:
Consumer Reports, Spring 2011, Ratings & Pricing Best & Worst Vehicles
"This small four-door hatchback has a raised seating position similar
to that of a small SUV. Interior fit and finish is subpar and the
styling impedes visibility, but there are some clever interior storage
features. The ride is sound but unexceptional, and handling is
lackluster but ultimately secure. The continuously variable
transmission works well but the version we tested with the 2.0-liter
engine lacked punch, and fuel economy wasn't impressive. Both engines
are noisy. There are better hatchbacks available." pp. 57-58.
Like the Prius, a superior hatchback, which unlike the Caliber, is
quiet, significantly quieter, and has twice the city mileage. Roughly
90% of the USA population lives in urban areas where City mileage
predominates. But feel free to claim only highway mileage matters ...