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Posted by David T. Johnson on April 16, 2011, 1:24 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

First, there is no 'engine' that is the source of power in the Prius.
There are actually 2 electric motors and one internal combustion engine
that all supply power to the wheels.  Second, the 'power split device'
has no recommended maintenance interval by Toyota.  That is the fact,
not my 'assertion.'

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Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 15, 2011, 8:13 pm

So you're saying that the Prius "transmission" (to use a convenient
word) fluid never, ever needs changing.


Maintenance free.

Dude, I know all about the Prius.  I own one, have for 4 years/77K
miles, and spent quite a bit of time looking into the entire thing.  
Some of the tidbits of information you say are entirely correct, but the
conclusions you claim are generally completely wrong--because you know
lying in the only way to make your case.

Posted by bwilson4web on April 20, 2011, 11:13 am
You're mostly right but it is a little more than appearance. There is
a measurable, cold weather effect when the older Type T-IV ages. It is
one reason why I'm running a long term study of Type WS, the new oil.


It is not an effect that shows up as a gross mileage improvement but
it is detectable in a cold-weather, hill roll-down test.

Based upon multiple oil samples my recommendation is:

30K miles - Type T-IV, Toyota recommends 60k miles
60K miles - Type WS

Bob Wilson

Posted by DA on April 19, 2011, 7:51 pm
 responding to
DA wrote:
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

Use it for business, then take standard mileage deduction at tax time. A
brand new Prius never breaks (well, OK, I personally had not problem with
two of mine - someone else's experience may differ), Toyota has 5000 miles
 oil change intervals, breaks never wear off, etc. - the car is VERY cheap
to operate for the first two-three years at least. If you drive it for
business enough miles (20K+/yr), you'll have your gas cost/maintenance
difference pay for difference between hybrid/ICE-only car in one or two
tax years. After that any savings on gas that Prius provides is all your
net positive, you can enjoy it knowing you didn't pay too much for it.


Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 19, 2011, 8:42 pm
  dirs_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com (DA) wrote:

That's what I do.

A colleague of mine went the route of buying a diesel VW.  Same idea.

Actually, we get reimbursed partially, so that's even better.  The
remainder, we deduct from our taxes.

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