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Posted by bwilson4web on April 13, 2011, 8:22 am

Spelling punctuation, what a novel way to hide abysmal ignorance. Our
hybrids are so different from the primitive, gas-only cars as to
compare a B-2 stealth bomber to a 1930s biplane. For example, using
the EPA web site:


48.8 MPG (139 owner reports) - 1.8L, 2010 Toyota Prius, full-size car
29.3 MPG (1 owner report) - 1.6L, 2010 Chevy Aveo, compact

It is an ordinary battery so anyone can use it as they wish. This is a
freedom apparently opposed by our local 'battery worshiper.'

Bob Wilson

Posted by David T. Johnson on April 14, 2011, 2:45 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

No, it isn't.  Tractor batteries, motorcycle batteries, snowmobile
batteries, jet ski batteries, ATV batteries, and other similar small
lead-acid batteries are also designed to operate in weather extremes.
Why in the world would you even think otherwise?

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Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 14, 2011, 9:47 pm

A battery of that size, intended for a tractor that uses a battery that
size, is intended for use that does not include weather extremes.

And that's one reason it's so cheap.

If you want to use a battery that's not intended for weather extremes, a
battery that was never designed for us in a closed space like the hatch
of a Prius, that's your business--but don't use that as the standard for
a Prius battery, simply because you need a $0 battery to try to
rationalize why the Prius is "inherently better" than anything else.

Posted by David T. Johnson on April 15, 2011, 3:06 pm
 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

Don't know why you keep going off about 'weather extremes' for
batteries.  Do you think those tractors spend their life in heated
garages?  I don't know what kind of 'tractors' you're even talking
about...a lawn tractor pushing a snow plow or a 2,000 hp diesel tractor
pulling a plow?  Whatever...you're wrong about their batteries.

The old volkswagen beatle had the battery under the rear seat in the
passenger compartment and no one seems to have died from it.  There were
a few millions of those sold.

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Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 15, 2011, 8:09 pm

dude, this is 2011.  That was 1960.

Are you HONESTLY saying that what we did in 1960 is still perfectly good

But the real discussion, which you are trying like hell to avoid, is the
idea of taking a battery that was intended to be installed and used on a
tractor, and claiming that it's perfectly fit to be installed inside in
a Prius.

And your only rationalization was that in 1960, we let people do it in a

Watch out, your fingernails are bleeding from hanging on so tightly.

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