Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 16, 2011, 5:38 pm
And as I pointed out, most if not all of your argument was pulled out of
thin air because you really, really want to believe things to be so even
though real world facts say otherwise.
You really, really want to rationalize your Prius purchase on the basis
of facts not in evidence. Therefore, you invent the facts and put them
into "evidence" and hope that people believe you.
The only people who would believe you are idiots and morons.
Posted by bwilson4web on April 20, 2011, 11:34 am
Yeap, he keeps believing what you seem to call, "his lying eyes." We
have Prius, pay the bills and know what it costs to run. So far, I'm
still eating out and driving where ever I want without having to
decide if I have to dip into lunch money to be able to drive home.
But the other part is what can't be bought with a regular gas car ...
driving in quiet, electric power. It just doesn't exist in ordinary
gas and diesel cars and lets us enjoy Spring sounds as we cruse
through the neighborhood.
Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 21, 2011, 11:14 am
I have Prius, pay the bills, and know what it costs to run.
Virtually all of the maintenance items he claimed didn't exist on the
Prius do in fact exist at the same rate as on any other car that uses
gasoline as its sole source of energy, has four wheels, and has a
He pulled his shit out of thin air because he really, really wants to
believe in the easter bunny.
Posted by David T. Johnson on April 21, 2011, 2:37 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
I have a Prius and I have had a lot of non-hybrid cars over the years so
I have a good idea of what it costs to maintain a vehicle, Prius or no.
The fact is that brake relining, transmission servicing, starter motor
replacement, alternator replacement, timing belt replacement, serpentine
belt replacement, and battery replacement are not required on a Prius in
the first 100K miles while on a non-hybrid car most or all of those
things are. Some of those don't exist on a Prius (starter,
transmission, starter, alternator, timing belt) while others wear at a
much slower rate and so are not needed until later (brakes, battery).
Of course, the Prius has things that don't exist on a non-hybrid vehicle
(hi-volt battery, motor-generators, PSD, inverter) and those may require
maintenance and repair further down the road but thus far Priuses are
relatively low-maintenance high-reliability vehicles. There is starting
to be some experience with people running Priuses up to high mileage
300,000 levels and the Prius' reputation appears to remain untarnished.
You know, Shagnasty, it was not that long ago that all cars were in
the junkyard before they reached 100,000 miles. Now, it is possible to
reach 200,000 miles with most cars if they are carefully maintained but
the owner will spend significant amounts of money on repairs to reach
that 200k mark. Cars in general have greater longevity now because of
1) much better motor oils, 2) computerized engine controls, 3) fuel
injection, 4) better alloys and materials in mass production, 5)
computer-controlled manufacturing tolerances and 6) computer-aided
improvements in design. Toyota uses all of those with the Prius and
also uses the hybrid technology to reduce the number of moving parts and
simplify the operation and function. They should be commended for
attempting to raise the bar for reliability even further and make the
idea of hybrid vehicles a mainstream one. The Prius has thus far done
extremely well for a completely new type of vehicle in mass production
for only 10 years. Even the earliest Priuses have done pretty good thus
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Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 21, 2011, 11:35 pm
So does the rest of the world.
And the rest of the world knows that most of the "the Prius is better
because it requires no maintenance compared to other cars that require
ALL THIS maintenance" list is bullshit.