Posted by Pete Heist on July 18, 2004, 3:31 am
I stopped by a dealership today (in PA) to ask how long it would take
to get a new Prius...12-18 months they said, unless I wanted to buy
the demo model. Is that a load to try to get me to buy what they had
there, or is this how long it's actually taking? I'm trying to think
of what other motivation they'd have for saying that if it weren't
Posted by Michelle Vadeboncoeur on July 18, 2004, 4:34 pm
firstname.lastname@example.org (Pete Heist) wrote in message
There is this graphic on Toyota USA's Prius page (
"Thank you for your interest in the 2004 Prius. Currently, dealers
are experiencing a temporary shortage of Prius vehicles. Click here
and that graphical link brings you to (
"If you are in the market for a new 2004 Prius, we appreciate your
patience. There is currently a waiting list at many dealerships across
the country. Since the vehicle launched in October of 2003, there has
been an extremely high demand for the 2004 Prius with Hybrid Synergy
Drive. Toyota is making every effort to increase production to try and
respond to the current high levels of demand. We'd like to thank you
for your patience. For more information about the Prius inventory
situation in your area, please visit your local dealer. "
However, I suggest calling to different dealers not just in your area,
but wherever you're willing to go to get a Prius. There are some rare
dealerships that are getting in cars, and have no/little waiting list.
Some other dealerships just sell to the highest bidder, waiting list
or no. Some dealerships have a waiting list per salesperson, as
opposed to one waiting list for the entire dealership.
Either be persistent looking around, or be willing to wait, or be
willing to pay an "availability surcharge" over MSRP to get a Prius
Posted by Bill McCalla on July 18, 2004, 8:41 pm
Michelle knows her stuff. I contracted to buy a Prius on Nov 17, 2003 and it
was just delivered last Saturday, and not even the color I wanted. Now, due
to the positive reviews and awards which generated a lot of interest and buy
orders, many ordering today may end up having to get a 2006.
So you can learn from my mistakes, I did the process wrong...my first
mistake was putting a non-refundable deposit down at the dealer who sold the
most older style Priuses in the area, figuring that that dealer would get a
larger allotment. Most medium and larger dealers are only getting 1 to 2 a
month. Nowadays since dealers can't guarantee delivery, they shouldn't take
deposits. Second mistake was not putting my name on more waiting lists at
other dealers that didn't require deposits. At smaller dealers I entered the
list in single digits and was offered Priuses in color/packages I didn't
want as short as 3 months later. One small dealer in Virginia offered me a
#4 Salsa as a walk-in. Another dealer in NC got a Prius although they
weren't even expecting any, so it also sold to a walk-in. As the Lexus R400H
and Highlander hybrids hit the market, the waiting lists should end for the
Prius, since those other models will probably be in higher demand. I'm
already #3 on a Highlander waiting list.
Black #9 2004 and Ice Blue 2001
Posted by Michelle Steiner on July 18, 2004, 9:31 pm
But perhaps in demand from a different demographic. I don't want one of
them because I don't want an SUV of any type--and besides, they won't
get nearly the same mileage as the Prius does.
-- the other Michelle
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Vote for John Kerry.
Posted by Steve on July 19, 2004, 1:51 am
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:41:49 GMT, "Bill McCalla" =
put together some random words that came up with:
I don't believe so. They are different market segments, and the SUVs =
nearly as good gas milage as the Prius. On the SUVs, they are EPA rated =
33-35 mpg (as per Lexus' and Toyota's web sites), and probably won't hit =
than 25mpg. Those two puppies are heavy, and with the big battery, they =
even heavier. As a comparison, my Nissan Murano (which is wider and =
the Lexus RX) gets 20mpg in a city/highway mix.
I had the option of waiting for the Lexus or the Highlander, and opted =
'04 Prius for that reason.
The problem here is that the Highlander with the 4 cylinder engine (if =
get them) will get around 27 mpg. When I went shopping for a Highlander =
on, you couldn't get the 4 because the dealers couldn't make enough =
them, ordering one would take a long while, and they didn't come with the
options that the 6 cyl Highlander came with.
Steve in Miami
Seaside Pearl #7