Posted by Tomes on April 15, 2008, 2:00 am
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:34:01 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
>>> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:42:19 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
>>> >
>>> >> This sucker started going dead on my 2001 if I didn't use the car for
>>> >> more than a day or so. It just apparently lost capacity over 7 years
>>> >
>>> >That's not a "beware" item.
>>> >
>>> >Saying that a car battery went dead after 7 years is like saying "water
>>> >is wet". Big deal.
>>>
>>> OK, maybe not "Beware" but "Be Advised That ...".
>>>
>>> Shouldn't Toyota have specified maintenance replacement every 5 years,
>>> etc.
>>
>>It's a car. The battery is good for ABOUT five years, but....frankly,
>>it goes dead when it goes dead. Replace it.
>>
>>That's how the world works. There's no specified time limit, no
>>maintenance schedule for the battery. Either it works, or it doesn't.
>>When it doesn't, replace it. That's how car ownership is, with every
>>car.
>>
>>If you've had the car (or the battery) for 5 or more years, you should
>>not at all be surprised to come out and find the battery dead. You're
>>on your own as to how to deal with that. If you don't like surprises,
>>then just have the battery checked every time you're in for
>>maintenance--they'll know when it's on the downhill slope, and you can
>>take care of it right then and there.
>>
>>In short: no, Toyota should not have specified maintenance replacement
>>every X years or months. Not at all. That's not how car batteries work.
> The problem, of course, is that it's a very small battery, physically,
> and there is no large aftermarket supply of them as there would have
> been for virtually any American brand. I can remember owning a 1971
> Honda 600 coupe, and discovering that instead of the typical (for the
> time) price of $6 to $9, I would have to pay $2 (I think) for a
> battery which was only available from a Honda dealer. I bit the bullet
> and bought one; what else was I going to do? I had a similar problem
> finding 10 inch tires for the car (I ended up with Michelins, of all
> things).
I have always wanted one of those Hondas......
Tomes
Posted by Pete Granzeau on April 16, 2008, 1:15 am
>> The problem, of course, is that it's a very small battery, physically,
>> and there is no large aftermarket supply of them as there would have
>> been for virtually any American brand. I can remember owning a 1971
>> Honda 600 coupe, and discovering that instead of the typical (for the
>> time) price of $6 to $9, I would have to pay $2 (I think) for a
>> battery which was only available from a Honda dealer. I bit the bullet
>> and bought one; what else was I going to do? I had a similar problem
>> finding 10 inch tires for the car (I ended up with Michelins, of all
>> things).
>I have always wanted one of those Hondas......
I needed a second car at the time, and this one was offered in the
classifieds. I bought it in 1975, and it had about 40,000 miles on it.
I kept it for 2 years, at which time, I believe it was just about
clapped out. It was leaking oil into the passenger compartment from
someplace up front. It was responsible for my purchase of a set of
metric socket wrenches and a 6" extender--I needed it to occasionally
tighten up the starter, as it would work loose. It blew an exhaust
valve, and I had a 1-cylinder car for a while--it had no acceleration at
all, but even on 1 lung, I could redline it in all 4 gears.
I believe it was junked when I traded it in, in 1977.
I remember seeing two other 600 Coupes in the area with some regularity.
One was pristine, owned by a fellow worker who had bought it new, and
the other had been customized--great big fender flares on the rear, and
what looked like 15" rims with drag slicks ON THE REAR. It had about a
15 degree down slant from rear to front. Quite stylish, I guess. It
still had that little air-cooled two cylinder engine driving the front
wheels, of course.
Posted by News on April 13, 2008, 5:03 pm
Steve Giannoni wrote:
> This sucker started going dead on my 2001 if I didn't use the car for
> more than a day or so. It just apparently lost capacity over 7 years
> and couldn't keep up with the theft deterrent and other "off use"
> electronics. So I had to pay $35.37 to Toyota for a replacement. Nice
> Hugh! The new is different from the original (hope it's upgraded
> capacity!) and required special new mounting hardware which they
> didn't stock (natch!). Three days and all that dough just to change a
> 12V battery (sheesh!). Any one with similar experience?
Have you ever owned or maintained a car before?
How long do you think storage batteries typically, or "ought to", last?
Posted by bill g on August 4, 2008, 9:46 am
You got ripped off.
the battery costs $37.50 and iseasily installed in about a half hour.
These batteriestypically last 4 years and can cause all kinds of weird
symptoms when they begin to go bad.
The only thing worse for you would be to have Michelle Steiner as the
seervice manager. She ferits this newssgroupand is quite the arrogant bozo!
William
> This sucker started going dead on my 2001 if I didn't use the car for
> more than a day or so. It just apparently lost capacity over 7 years
> and couldn't keep up with the theft deterrent and other "off use"
> electronics. So I had to pay $35.37 to Toyota for a replacement. Nice
> Hugh! The new is different from the original (hope it's upgraded
> capacity!) and required special new mounting hardware which they
> didn't stock (natch!). Three days and all that dough just to change a
> 12V battery (sheesh!). Any one with similar experience?
Posted by Michelle Steiner on August 4, 2008, 2:04 pm
> The only thing worse for you would be to have Michelle Steiner as the
> seervice manager. She ferits this newssgroupand is quite the
> arrogant bozo!
It would be worse for him to listen to anything you say, asshole. Go
fuck yourself.
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>>> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:42:19 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
>>> >
>>> >> This sucker started going dead on my 2001 if I didn't use the car for
>>> >> more than a day or so. It just apparently lost capacity over 7 years
>>> >
>>> >That's not a "beware" item.
>>> >
>>> >Saying that a car battery went dead after 7 years is like saying "water
>>> >is wet". Big deal.
>>>
>>> OK, maybe not "Beware" but "Be Advised That ...".
>>>
>>> Shouldn't Toyota have specified maintenance replacement every 5 years,
>>> etc.
>>
>>It's a car. The battery is good for ABOUT five years, but....frankly,
>>it goes dead when it goes dead. Replace it.
>>
>>That's how the world works. There's no specified time limit, no
>>maintenance schedule for the battery. Either it works, or it doesn't.
>>When it doesn't, replace it. That's how car ownership is, with every
>>car.
>>
>>If you've had the car (or the battery) for 5 or more years, you should
>>not at all be surprised to come out and find the battery dead. You're
>>on your own as to how to deal with that. If you don't like surprises,
>>then just have the battery checked every time you're in for
>>maintenance--they'll know when it's on the downhill slope, and you can
>>take care of it right then and there.
>>
>>In short: no, Toyota should not have specified maintenance replacement
>>every X years or months. Not at all. That's not how car batteries work.
> The problem, of course, is that it's a very small battery, physically,
> and there is no large aftermarket supply of them as there would have
> been for virtually any American brand. I can remember owning a 1971
> Honda 600 coupe, and discovering that instead of the typical (for the
> time) price of $6 to $9, I would have to pay $2 (I think) for a
> battery which was only available from a Honda dealer. I bit the bullet
> and bought one; what else was I going to do? I had a similar problem
> finding 10 inch tires for the car (I ended up with Michelins, of all
> things).