Posted by Tomes on January 26, 2009, 11:49 pm
I am unfamiliar with this device, but it appears to be a PERSONAL OBD II
SCAN TOOL (and an expensive one at $50).
http://www.autoequipmentonline.com/autoequipmentonline/Diagnostic/Omitech%20Interro%20Diagnostic%20Systems.htm
-
scroll down to the bottom of the page [another web site says that it costs
$00.].
It ought to read codes and display them. Plug it into the port [near your
left knee while sitting in the driver seat] and have it read the codes and
then report them here for help in that way. The codes will look something
like P0442 or somesuch.
Tomes
"Steve Giannoni" ...
>I have an Interro Systems PST500 for OBD II Diagnostics.
> Might this be useful & how ? ...
> "Tomes" wrote:
>>What were the codes? That would be the place to start. If you do not
>>have
>>a code reader you can go to a place like AutoZone and they will read them
>>for you for free. It gives you a significant advantage to walk into a
>>dealer with a problem if you know what the problem is going in.
>>
>>My ICE does not run when I am stopped, only when the heater calls for heat
>>and the engine is not warm enough at that moment to provide it. I will be
>>stopped with the heater on and then turn the heater off [hit the off
>>button]
>>and the ICE shuts right off right then.
>>
>>Perhaps there is more explanation, but this sounds normal to me. If the
>>ICE
>>runs enough during the driving then the battery gets charged from that,
>>and
>>that is always enough in my Prius. Maybe something differs in the older
>>models?
>>Tomes
>>
>>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>> Toyota service gets a diagnostic crack at the problem in 3 days. Also,
>>> the check engine indicator came on for a while ....
>>>
>>>>The battery doesn't seem to be charging or powering normally. e.g.
>>>>when stopped, the ICE never seems to run, as in topping up the
>>>>battery, etc. Could the battery be failing somehow? Other thoughts?
Posted by Steve Giannoni on January 28, 2009, 4:12 pm
Toyota service had the car and found the crankcase overfilled with oil
and fouling the plugs and some other stuff. This must have happened
during the last regular service by a different service facility. Don't
know why it just decided to cause problems recently but seems to be
much better since corrected.
If it ever stops snowing I might get a chance to eventually try the
PST500 for info but all error codes might be cleared now ...
>I am unfamiliar with this device, but it appears to be a PERSONAL OBD II
>SCAN TOOL (and an expensive one at $50).
>http://www.autoequipmentonline.com/autoequipmentonline/Diagnostic/Omitech%20Interro%20Diagnostic%20Systems.htm
-
>scroll down to the bottom of the page [another web site says that it costs
>$00.].
>It ought to read codes and display them. Plug it into the port [near your
>left knee while sitting in the driver seat] and have it read the codes and
>then report them here for help in that way. The codes will look something
>like P0442 or somesuch.
>Tomes
>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>I have an Interro Systems PST500 for OBD II Diagnostics.
>>
>> Might this be useful & how ? ...
>>
>> "Tomes" wrote:
>>>What were the codes? That would be the place to start. If you do not
>>>have
>>>a code reader you can go to a place like AutoZone and they will read them
>>>for you for free. It gives you a significant advantage to walk into a
>>>dealer with a problem if you know what the problem is going in.
>>>
>>>My ICE does not run when I am stopped, only when the heater calls for heat
>>>and the engine is not warm enough at that moment to provide it. I will be
>>>stopped with the heater on and then turn the heater off [hit the off
>>>button]
>>>and the ICE shuts right off right then.
>>>
>>>Perhaps there is more explanation, but this sounds normal to me. If the
>>>ICE
>>>runs enough during the driving then the battery gets charged from that,
>>>and
>>>that is always enough in my Prius. Maybe something differs in the older
>>>models?
>>>Tomes
>>>
>>>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>>> Toyota service gets a diagnostic crack at the problem in 3 days. Also,
>>>> the check engine indicator came on for a while ....
>>>>
>>>>>The battery doesn't seem to be charging or powering normally. e.g.
>>>>>when stopped, the ICE never seems to run, as in topping up the
>>>>>battery, etc. Could the battery be failing somehow? Other thoughts?
Posted by Tomes on January 28, 2009, 10:23 pm
Hmmm. This is still not making sense to me. Overfull oil does not foul
plugs AFAIK. What that does is destroy an engine because the oil will be at
the level in the oil pan where it gets churned up by the bottom of the oil
pump into a froth that does not lubricate as well. I am thinking that you
are being told stories.
Read the codes. Post the codes. Do not be afraid of the code reader. It
is your friend, not a scary thing. Use it. Post the codes here. Always do
this before going to any shop. Preknowledge is vital and a big cost saver.
You already have the tool.
None of this connects together to the engine running more often. I remain
in belief that you are being led around blindly.
Now, they likely cleared the codes. Generally the malady that trips the
codes needs to happen a number of times before the light comes on.
You can use the code reader when it is snowing. You can plug it in and sit
in the driver seat with the door closed quite easily.
Tomes
"Steve Giannoni" ...
> Toyota service had the car and found the crankcase overfilled with oil
> and fouling the plugs and some other stuff. This must have happened
> during the last regular service by a different service facility. Don't
> know why it just decided to cause problems recently but seems to be
> much better since corrected.
> If it ever stops snowing I might get a chance to eventually try the
> PST500 for info but all error codes might be cleared now ...
> "Tomes" wrote:
>>I am unfamiliar with this device, but it appears to be a PERSONAL OBD II
>>SCAN TOOL (and an expensive one at $50).
>>http://www.autoequipmentonline.com/autoequipmentonline/Diagnostic/Omitech%20Interro%20Diagnostic%20Systems.htm
>> -
>>scroll down to the bottom of the page [another web site says that it costs
>>$00.].
>>
>>It ought to read codes and display them. Plug it into the port [near your
>>left knee while sitting in the driver seat] and have it read the codes and
>>then report them here for help in that way. The codes will look something
>>like P0442 or somesuch.
>>Tomes
>>
>>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>>I have an Interro Systems PST500 for OBD II Diagnostics.
>>>
>>> Might this be useful & how ? ...
>>>
>>> "Tomes" wrote:
>>>>What were the codes? That would be the place to start. If you do not
>>>>have
>>>>a code reader you can go to a place like AutoZone and they will read
>>>>them
>>>>for you for free. It gives you a significant advantage to walk into a
>>>>dealer with a problem if you know what the problem is going in.
>>>>
>>>>My ICE does not run when I am stopped, only when the heater calls for
>>>>heat
>>>>and the engine is not warm enough at that moment to provide it. I will
>>>>be
>>>>stopped with the heater on and then turn the heater off [hit the off
>>>>button]
>>>>and the ICE shuts right off right then.
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps there is more explanation, but this sounds normal to me. If the
>>>>ICE
>>>>runs enough during the driving then the battery gets charged from that,
>>>>and
>>>>that is always enough in my Prius. Maybe something differs in the older
>>>>models?
>>>>Tomes
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>>>> Toyota service gets a diagnostic crack at the problem in 3 days. Also,
>>>>> the check engine indicator came on for a while ....
>>>>>
>>>>>>The battery doesn't seem to be charging or powering normally. e.g.
>>>>>>when stopped, the ICE never seems to run, as in topping up the
>>>>>>battery, etc. Could the battery be failing somehow? Other thoughts?
Posted by Steve Giannoni on January 29, 2009, 12:53 am
I essentially agree with your assessment, but the car does seem to run
OK now after new plugs et al. Have to re-educate myself on the PST500
and will post any codes if & when I get around to trying it.
Appreciate your thoughts & comments ...
http://giannoni.homestead.com/sa18.html
>Hmmm. This is still not making sense to me. Overfull oil does not foul
>plugs AFAIK. What that does is destroy an engine because the oil will be at
>the level in the oil pan where it gets churned up by the bottom of the oil
>pump into a froth that does not lubricate as well. I am thinking that you
>are being told stories.
>Read the codes. Post the codes. Do not be afraid of the code reader. It
>is your friend, not a scary thing. Use it. Post the codes here. Always do
>this before going to any shop. Preknowledge is vital and a big cost saver.
>You already have the tool.
>None of this connects together to the engine running more often. I remain
>in belief that you are being led around blindly.
>Now, they likely cleared the codes. Generally the malady that trips the
>codes needs to happen a number of times before the light comes on.
>You can use the code reader when it is snowing. You can plug it in and sit
>in the driver seat with the door closed quite easily.
>Tomes
>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>> Toyota service had the car and found the crankcase overfilled with oil
>> and fouling the plugs and some other stuff. This must have happened
>> during the last regular service by a different service facility. Don't
>> know why it just decided to cause problems recently but seems to be
>> much better since corrected.
>>
>> If it ever stops snowing I might get a chance to eventually try the
>> PST500 for info but all error codes might be cleared now ...
>>
>> "Tomes" wrote:
>>>I am unfamiliar with this device, but it appears to be a PERSONAL OBD II
>>>SCAN TOOL (and an expensive one at $50).
>>>http://www.autoequipmentonline.com/autoequipmentonline/Diagnostic/Omitech%20Interro%20Diagnostic%20Systems.htm
>>> -
>>>scroll down to the bottom of the page [another web site says that it costs
>>>$00.].
>>>
>>>It ought to read codes and display them. Plug it into the port [near your
>>>left knee while sitting in the driver seat] and have it read the codes and
>>>then report them here for help in that way. The codes will look something
>>>like P0442 or somesuch.
>>>Tomes
>>>
>>>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>>>I have an Interro Systems PST500 for OBD II Diagnostics.
>>>>
>>>> Might this be useful & how ? ...
>>>>
>>>> "Tomes" wrote:
>>>>>What were the codes? That would be the place to start. If you do not
>>>>>have
>>>>>a code reader you can go to a place like AutoZone and they will read
>>>>>them
>>>>>for you for free. It gives you a significant advantage to walk into a
>>>>>dealer with a problem if you know what the problem is going in.
>>>>>
>>>>>My ICE does not run when I am stopped, only when the heater calls for
>>>>>heat
>>>>>and the engine is not warm enough at that moment to provide it. I will
>>>>>be
>>>>>stopped with the heater on and then turn the heater off [hit the off
>>>>>button]
>>>>>and the ICE shuts right off right then.
>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps there is more explanation, but this sounds normal to me. If the
>>>>>ICE
>>>>>runs enough during the driving then the battery gets charged from that,
>>>>>and
>>>>>that is always enough in my Prius. Maybe something differs in the older
>>>>>models?
>>>>>Tomes
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>>>>> Toyota service gets a diagnostic crack at the problem in 3 days. Also,
>>>>>> the check engine indicator came on for a while ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The battery doesn't seem to be charging or powering normally. e.g.
>>>>>>>when stopped, the ICE never seems to run, as in topping up the
>>>>>>>battery, etc. Could the battery be failing somehow? Other thoughts?
Posted by Tomes on January 31, 2009, 12:12 am
Cool. Good luck and let us know how things go.
Tomes
>I essentially agree with your assessment, but the car does seem to run
> OK now after new plugs et al. Have to re-educate myself on the PST500
> and will post any codes if & when I get around to trying it.
> Appreciate your thoughts & comments ...
> http://giannoni.homestead.com/sa18.html
>>Hmmm. This is still not making sense to me. Overfull oil does not foul
>>plugs AFAIK. What that does is destroy an engine because the oil will be
>>at
>>the level in the oil pan where it gets churned up by the bottom of the oil
>>pump into a froth that does not lubricate as well. I am thinking that you
>>are being told stories.
>>
>>Read the codes. Post the codes. Do not be afraid of the code reader. It
>>is your friend, not a scary thing. Use it. Post the codes here. Always
>>do
>>this before going to any shop. Preknowledge is vital and a big cost
>>saver.
>>You already have the tool.
>>
>>None of this connects together to the engine running more often. I remain
>>in belief that you are being led around blindly.
>>
>>Now, they likely cleared the codes. Generally the malady that trips the
>>codes needs to happen a number of times before the light comes on.
>>
>>You can use the code reader when it is snowing. You can plug it in and
>>sit
>>in the driver seat with the door closed quite easily.
>>Tomes
>>
>>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>> Toyota service had the car and found the crankcase overfilled with oil
>>> and fouling the plugs and some other stuff. This must have happened
>>> during the last regular service by a different service facility. Don't
>>> know why it just decided to cause problems recently but seems to be
>>> much better since corrected.
>>>
>>> If it ever stops snowing I might get a chance to eventually try the
>>> PST500 for info but all error codes might be cleared now ...
>>>
>>> "Tomes" wrote:
>>>>I am unfamiliar with this device, but it appears to be a PERSONAL OBD II
>>>>SCAN TOOL (and an expensive one at $50).
>>>>http://www.autoequipmentonline.com/autoequipmentonline/Diagnostic/Omitech%20Interro%20Diagnostic%20Systems.htm
>>>> -
>>>>scroll down to the bottom of the page [another web site says that it
>>>>costs
>>>>$00.].
>>>>
>>>>It ought to read codes and display them. Plug it into the port [near
>>>>your
>>>>left knee while sitting in the driver seat] and have it read the codes
>>>>and
>>>>then report them here for help in that way. The codes will look
>>>>something
>>>>like P0442 or somesuch.
>>>>Tomes
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>>>>I have an Interro Systems PST500 for OBD II Diagnostics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Might this be useful & how ? ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tomes" wrote:
>>>>>>What were the codes? That would be the place to start. If you do not
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>a code reader you can go to a place like AutoZone and they will read
>>>>>>them
>>>>>>for you for free. It gives you a significant advantage to walk into a
>>>>>>dealer with a problem if you know what the problem is going in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My ICE does not run when I am stopped, only when the heater calls for
>>>>>>heat
>>>>>>and the engine is not warm enough at that moment to provide it. I
>>>>>>will
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>stopped with the heater on and then turn the heater off [hit the off
>>>>>>button]
>>>>>>and the ICE shuts right off right then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Perhaps there is more explanation, but this sounds normal to me. If
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>ICE
>>>>>>runs enough during the driving then the battery gets charged from
>>>>>>that,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>that is always enough in my Prius. Maybe something differs in the
>>>>>>older
>>>>>>models?
>>>>>>Tomes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>>>>>> Toyota service gets a diagnostic crack at the problem in 3 days.
>>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>>> the check engine indicator came on for a while ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The battery doesn't seem to be charging or powering normally. e.g.
>>>>>>>>when stopped, the ICE never seems to run, as in topping up the
>>>>>>>>battery, etc. Could the battery be failing somehow? Other thoughts?
> Might this be useful & how ? ...
> "Tomes" wrote:
>>What were the codes? That would be the place to start. If you do not
>>have
>>a code reader you can go to a place like AutoZone and they will read them
>>for you for free. It gives you a significant advantage to walk into a
>>dealer with a problem if you know what the problem is going in.
>>
>>My ICE does not run when I am stopped, only when the heater calls for heat
>>and the engine is not warm enough at that moment to provide it. I will be
>>stopped with the heater on and then turn the heater off [hit the off
>>button]
>>and the ICE shuts right off right then.
>>
>>Perhaps there is more explanation, but this sounds normal to me. If the
>>ICE
>>runs enough during the driving then the battery gets charged from that,
>>and
>>that is always enough in my Prius. Maybe something differs in the older
>>models?
>>Tomes
>>
>>"Steve Giannoni" ...
>>> Toyota service gets a diagnostic crack at the problem in 3 days. Also,
>>> the check engine indicator came on for a while ....
>>>
>>>>The battery doesn't seem to be charging or powering normally. e.g.
>>>>when stopped, the ICE never seems to run, as in topping up the
>>>>battery, etc. Could the battery be failing somehow? Other thoughts?