Posted by Was Istoben on May 26, 2009, 11:32 pm
> The harness you see inside that hatch provides power and control to
> the taillight, the reverse light and the turning indicator; not the
> LED array. If anyone knows where the connection for the LED array
> really is, I'd appreciate your information. It currently appears it
> is buried somewhere behind the assembly, which must be removed to gain
> access to any LED harness.
> I agree the whole array ceasing to function was a major surprise.
> That's why I am here looking for others with the same experience and,
> perhaps, knowledge of what was done to remedy the situation.
> ________
> The connection to the LED array is, as you write, most likely internal to
> the assembly. Only a single wire is necessary since the array would most
> likely used a shared ground connection. I find it highly unlikely they
> would run a harness from the dash all the way to the assembly but run this
> one wire separately. Are you certain this wire isn't in that harness?
> Sorry, but I don't have the wiring diagram.
I don't need the wiring diagram; I've held the harness and it only
connects to three lamps, as previously described.
I just returned from looking at my harness (driver's side rear). It makes 5
connections, 4 in a row (to lamps it appears) easily visible next to the
harness and a 5th near the top of the assembly right behind the LED array.
You can only see the 5th connection with your head on the floor an a
flashlight point toward the top of the assembly.
Posted by NeoPhyte.Rep on May 28, 2009, 2:37 pm
> > The harness you see inside that hatch provides power and control to
> > the taillight, the reverse light and the turning indicator; not the
> > LED array. If anyone knows where the connection for the LED array
> > really is, I'd appreciate your information. It currently appears it
> > is buried somewhere behind the assembly, which must be removed to gain
> > access to any LED harness.
> > I agree the whole array ceasing to function was a major surprise.
> > That's why I am here looking for others with the same experience and,
> > perhaps, knowledge of what was done to remedy the situation.
> > ________
> > The connection to the LED array is, as you write, most likely internal to
> > the assembly. Only a single wire is necessary since the array would most
> > likely used a shared ground connection. I find it highly unlikely they
> > would run a harness from the dash all the way to the assembly but run this
> > one wire separately. Are you certain this wire isn't in that harness?
> > Sorry, but I don't have the wiring diagram.
> I don't need the wiring diagram; I've held the harness and it only
> connects to three lamps, as previously described.
> I just returned from looking at my harness (driver's side rear). It makes 5
> connections, 4 in a row (to lamps it appears) easily visible next to the
> harness and a 5th near the top of the assembly right behind the LED array.
> You can only see the 5th connection with your head on the floor an a
> flashlight point toward the top of the assembly.
Well, I'll make sure the mechanic is told to check that connection
before installing a whole new assembly. An hour of labor is surely
less expensive than that assembly.
Posted by Was Istoben on May 29, 2009, 12:40 am
> > The harness you see inside that hatch provides power and control to
> > the taillight, the reverse light and the turning indicator; not the
> > LED array. If anyone knows where the connection for the LED array
> > really is, I'd appreciate your information. It currently appears it
> > is buried somewhere behind the assembly, which must be removed to gain
> > access to any LED harness.
> > I agree the whole array ceasing to function was a major surprise.
> > That's why I am here looking for others with the same experience and,
> > perhaps, knowledge of what was done to remedy the situation.
> > ________
> > The connection to the LED array is, as you write, most likely internal
> > to
> > the assembly. Only a single wire is necessary since the array would most
> > likely used a shared ground connection. I find it highly unlikely they
> > would run a harness from the dash all the way to the assembly but run
> > this
> > one wire separately. Are you certain this wire isn't in that harness?
> > Sorry, but I don't have the wiring diagram.
> I don't need the wiring diagram; I've held the harness and it only
> connects to three lamps, as previously described.
> I just returned from looking at my harness (driver's side rear). It makes
> 5
> connections, 4 in a row (to lamps it appears) easily visible next to the
> harness and a 5th near the top of the assembly right behind the LED array.
> You can only see the 5th connection with your head on the floor an a
> flashlight point toward the top of the assembly.
Well, I'll make sure the mechanic is told to check that connection
before installing a whole new assembly. An hour of labor is surely
less expensive than that assembly.
Put your fingers around the harness and slide your hand upward past the four
easily visible connections. About 3" above the top visible connection you
will feel the harness turn sharply toward the lamp assembly. If it is loose
or disconnected you may be able to feel that. This test will take less than
a minute of your time.
Posted by NeoPhyte.Rep on May 29, 2009, 4:25 pm
> > > The harness you see inside that hatch provides power and control to
> > > the taillight, the reverse light and the turning indicator; not the
> > > LED array. If anyone knows where the connection for the LED array
> > > really is, I'd appreciate your information. It currently appears it
> > > is buried somewhere behind the assembly, which must be removed to gain
> > > access to any LED harness.
> > > I agree the whole array ceasing to function was a major surprise.
> > > That's why I am here looking for others with the same experience and,
> > > perhaps, knowledge of what was done to remedy the situation.
> > > ________
> > > The connection to the LED array is, as you write, most likely internal
> > > to
> > > the assembly. Only a single wire is necessary since the array would most
> > > likely used a shared ground connection. I find it highly unlikely they
> > > would run a harness from the dash all the way to the assembly but run
> > > this
> > > one wire separately. Are you certain this wire isn't in that harness?
> > > Sorry, but I don't have the wiring diagram.
> > I don't need the wiring diagram; I've held the harness and it only
> > connects to three lamps, as previously described.
> > I just returned from looking at my harness (driver's side rear). It makes
> > 5
> > connections, 4 in a row (to lamps it appears) easily visible next to the
> > harness and a 5th near the top of the assembly right behind the LED array.
> > You can only see the 5th connection with your head on the floor an a
> > flashlight point toward the top of the assembly.
> Well, I'll make sure the mechanic is told to check that connection
> before installing a whole new assembly. An hour of labor is surely
> less expensive than that assembly.
> Put your fingers around the harness and slide your hand upward past the four
> easily visible connections. About 3" above the top visible connection you
> will feel the harness turn sharply toward the lamp assembly. If it is loose
> or disconnected you may be able to feel that. This test will take less than
> a minute of your time.
Thank you, I found the connection, but it is not loose or disconnected.
Posted by Was Istoben on May 30, 2009, 3:18 am
> > > The harness you see inside that hatch provides power and control to
> > > the taillight, the reverse light and the turning indicator; not the
> > > LED array. If anyone knows where the connection for the LED array
> > > really is, I'd appreciate your information. It currently appears it
> > > is buried somewhere behind the assembly, which must be removed to gain
> > > access to any LED harness.
> > > I agree the whole array ceasing to function was a major surprise.
> > > That's why I am here looking for others with the same experience and,
> > > perhaps, knowledge of what was done to remedy the situation.
> > > ________
> > > The connection to the LED array is, as you write, most likely internal
> > > to
> > > the assembly. Only a single wire is necessary since the array would
> > > most
> > > likely used a shared ground connection. I find it highly unlikely they
> > > would run a harness from the dash all the way to the assembly but run
> > > this
> > > one wire separately. Are you certain this wire isn't in that harness?
> > > Sorry, but I don't have the wiring diagram.
> > I don't need the wiring diagram; I've held the harness and it only
> > connects to three lamps, as previously described.
> > I just returned from looking at my harness (driver's side rear). It
> > makes
> > 5
> > connections, 4 in a row (to lamps it appears) easily visible next to the
> > harness and a 5th near the top of the assembly right behind the LED
> > array.
> > You can only see the 5th connection with your head on the floor an a
> > flashlight point toward the top of the assembly.
> Well, I'll make sure the mechanic is told to check that connection
> before installing a whole new assembly. An hour of labor is surely
> less expensive than that assembly.
> Put your fingers around the harness and slide your hand upward past the
> four
> easily visible connections. About 3" above the top visible connection you
> will feel the harness turn sharply toward the lamp assembly. If it is
> loose
> or disconnected you may be able to feel that. This test will take less
> than
> a minute of your time.
Thank you, I found the connection, but it is not loose or disconnected.
When this is fixed, let us know what the problem was.
> the taillight, the reverse light and the turning indicator; not the
> LED array. If anyone knows where the connection for the LED array
> really is, I'd appreciate your information. It currently appears it
> is buried somewhere behind the assembly, which must be removed to gain
> access to any LED harness.
> I agree the whole array ceasing to function was a major surprise.
> That's why I am here looking for others with the same experience and,
> perhaps, knowledge of what was done to remedy the situation.
> ________
> The connection to the LED array is, as you write, most likely internal to
> the assembly. Only a single wire is necessary since the array would most
> likely used a shared ground connection. I find it highly unlikely they
> would run a harness from the dash all the way to the assembly but run this
> one wire separately. Are you certain this wire isn't in that harness?
> Sorry, but I don't have the wiring diagram.