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Posted by Fred Seaver on July 17, 2009, 12:48 pm

Posted by Davoud on July 17, 2009, 3:16 pm
Fred Seaver wrote:

Isn't it amazing that they're still hung up on acceleration times after
all these years!? Outside of GM bean counters who thought they could
continue building 1950's cars in the 21st century, who pays attention
to that spec? Who accelerates from 0-60 between stoplights?

The question I would ask would be "Can it keep up with urban and
suburban traffic?" Since the answer for every commercial automobile in
the USA is "Yes," that question is also meaningless. Driving my '06
Prius, I followed a high-end Porsche* through through town from
stoplight to stoplight the other day and he couldn't shake me :-)


* "What do you think of my new Porsche?" "Nice. Two doors, steel roof,
cramped interior, reminds me a lot of the Pinto."

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Posted by Mr. G on July 18, 2009, 5:26 pm

In my '07 Prius, I've never had a problem pulling onto a busy road with
50+ MPH traffic, or merging onto an Interstate.

A while back I saw a video on an automotive Web site (sorry, don't
recall which one) where they were testing the Gen2 Prius against the
Honda Civic Hybrid head-to-head.  One of their tests was a 1/4 mile run,
which the Prius won.  It seem obvious that they weren't happy with the
outcome, so what was their next test?  "Let's run the race again, with
the cars in reverse!"  Geez, now there's a useful test.

It still amazes me how they market cars in this day and age.  The luxury
sedans continue to brag about how much power they have.  There's
currently a Lexus commercial that shows drivers doing donuts on empty
city streets as they scream like they're on a thrill ride, while the car
throws up clouds of burnt rubber.  And the VW Touarge ad (with its very
misleading mileage claims) that mocks the Prius because it doesn't make
a lot of exhaust noise.  And one of my all-time favorites: a luxury
sedan that showed a Yuppie driving from NYC to Maine for his lunchtime.  
He was apparently able to do this simply because his car had so much

Then again, there are many who need a loud and/or fast car to compensate
for their feelings of inadequacy, so this type of thinking will probably
never go away completely.

Posted by Peter Granzeau on July 20, 2009, 1:10 am

Nearly every car sold has more acceleration than the driver will use.  I
don't think I have ever actually witnessed a full-power acceleration
from a standing start on a public road of any car.  The 2G Prius's
acceleration is sufficient to merge into traffic on an Interstate.

Posted by Davoud on July 20, 2009, 1:53 am

Peter Granzeau:

Hah! You never saw my '59 Renault Dauphine on the wide-open highways of
West Texas in the early 60's. It was awesome. A buddy of mine set out
to clock its 0-60 time as we were traveling from San Angelo to Abilene
to get a little breakfast. Due to some slight upgrades and maybe a bad
spark-plug wire we were unable to reach 60 on the 90-mile trip to
Abilene. Coming back we reached nearly 65. Elapsed time from 0-60,
including the breakfast stop, was something close to four hours.
Victory was assured in our attempt to set a new record for the San
Angelo-Abilene-breakfast-San Angelo run when the Renault ran out of oil
on the return trip. A kindly truck driver, sympathetic to two poor
GI's, gave us a couple of quarts of something resembling oil, but we
still managed to set a record of nearly seven hours. If the Renault had
just had air conditioning... we would still be trying to get back from

Didn't know about the Guinness Book of World Records in those days.

Just thinking about driving that Renault on an Interstate constitutes a
near-death experience.


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