Posted by Al Falfa on September 30, 2009, 10:31 pm
>> > yep. That was the Toyota standard for a long, long time. I wonder
>> > when
>> > someone wised up?
>>
>> Perhaps when I and a billion other Toyota owners whined about it. :-)
> yeah, but I'm pretty sure they couldn't hear me grumbling in my car as I
> pulled away from the toll booth--which is the only time it really
> affected me...
I use my cruise in town a lot. Lets me pay more attention to traffic while
keeping me from getting a speeding ticket since I can't sense the difference
between 35 and 40 mph and tend to creep upward if I don't pay attention to
the speedometer. It compensates for one of my many shortcomings.
Posted by Fatter Than Ever Moe on October 5, 2009, 10:06 am
Al Falfa wrote:
>
>>
>>> > yep. That was the Toyota standard for a long, long time. I wonder
>>> > when
>>> > someone wised up?
>>>
>>> Perhaps when I and a billion other Toyota owners whined about it. :-)
>>
>> yeah, but I'm pretty sure they couldn't hear me grumbling in my car as I
>> pulled away from the toll booth--which is the only time it really
>> affected me...
>
> I use my cruise in town a lot. Lets me pay more attention to traffic
> while keeping me from getting a speeding ticket since I can't sense the
> difference between 35 and 40 mph and tend to creep upward if I don't pay
> attention to the speedometer. It compensates for one of my many
> shortcomings.
>
I do the same thing, it takes some getting used to but now it's a
habit now and the easy way to keep from getting in town tickets. I use
the GPS to check the speedometer and can go the legal limit (well maybe
a couple of miles over sometimes) and get to where ever I'm going as
quick as legally possible. If someone wants to tailgate that's their
problem not mine.
Posted by Mr. G on September 30, 2009, 11:14 pm
(crop@eastforty.fld) says...
>
> Another difference I've noticed, one which may indicate an adjustment is
> necessary, is the cancellation of cruise when the brake pedal is depressed.
> The 2005 was so sensitive I could cancel the cruise by brushing my foot
> across the brake pedal. In the 2010 the cruise doesn't cancel until brake
> action begins with the brake depressed more than an inch. I've reverted to
> cancelling it by pulling the lever toward me.
I've noticed that too, though I consider it a feature: when going down a
steep downgrade, or after cresting a rise, sometimes your speed will go
significantly above the set speed. You can do gentle braking to keep to
the desired speed without disengaging the CC. I find this especially
helpful when trying to keep the speed below 45 MPH on a downgrade, so
the ICE doesn't start spinning.
Also, when the CC is engaged, the dynamic braking is stronger on a
downgrade than when coasting without the CC set, which also helps keep
you from exceeding the set speed on a downgrade.
Posted by Chas Gill on September 30, 2009, 8:05 am
> The 2010 cruise control differs from the 2005 cruise control. The good
> news is that it remembers it's setting even when you come to a complete
> stop and resumes once you are above about 25 mph. The bad news is that,
> in the ECO mode at least, it maintains the set speed +/- about 3 mph on
> roads with small hills.
> When the 2010 cruise is set the lever behaves just like the gas pedal.
> Hold it up and it accelerates constantly. Hold it down and it starts
> charging the traction battery to reduce speed more quickly. Moving up or
> down, you have to lead it a bit to arrive at the desired speed. For
> example, if you are at 45 and hold the lever up until you reach 55,
> releasing the lever at that speed, you will end up cruising at 57 or 58.
The cruise control lever will also increase speed in incremental steps of
1mph if you flick it upwards, about once every 3/4 sec. or so, and decrease
speed by the same amount if you flick it downwards. Quite useful when your
speed doesn't quite match the car in front. Not as useful as radar
controlled adaptive cruise, though, which Toyota thinks us Brits aren't
grown up enough to have yet....... :-(
Posted by Al Falfa on September 30, 2009, 2:37 pm
>> The 2010 cruise control differs from the 2005 cruise control. The good
>> news is that it remembers it's setting even when you come to a complete
>> stop and resumes once you are above about 25 mph. The bad news is that,
>> in the ECO mode at least, it maintains the set speed +/- about 3 mph on
>> roads with small hills.
>>
>> When the 2010 cruise is set the lever behaves just like the gas pedal.
>> Hold it up and it accelerates constantly. Hold it down and it starts
>> charging the traction battery to reduce speed more quickly. Moving up or
>> down, you have to lead it a bit to arrive at the desired speed. For
>> example, if you are at 45 and hold the lever up until you reach 55,
>> releasing the lever at that speed, you will end up cruising at 57 or 58.
>>
>>
> The cruise control lever will also increase speed in incremental steps of
> 1mph if you flick it upwards, about once every 3/4 sec. or so, and
> decrease speed by the same amount if you flick it downwards. Quite useful
> when your speed doesn't quite match the car in front. Not as useful as
> radar controlled adaptive cruise, though, which Toyota thinks us Brits
> aren't grown up enough to have yet....... :-(
Yes, the 2010 does the incremental bump too but in the ECO mode it's not
nearly as responsive as in the power mode. While I'm on modes, there seems
to be 4 modes of operation. The 3 buttons (EV, ECO and Power) select
deviations from what I'll call "normal". In other words, the fourth set of
operational parameters is achieved by not selecting any of the other three.
In that "normal" mode it performs very much like my 2005 did.
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>> > when
>> > someone wised up?
>>
>> Perhaps when I and a billion other Toyota owners whined about it. :-)
> yeah, but I'm pretty sure they couldn't hear me grumbling in my car as I
> pulled away from the toll booth--which is the only time it really
> affected me...