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Posted by Cathy F. on July 7, 2006, 6:11 pm

Okay.  Well, most likely a moot point in my case, anyway.  I tend to keep my
cars for ~6 years each.


Posted by mrv@kluge.net on July 7, 2006, 2:41 pm

Bob Wilson wrote:

Huh?  The only 8/80000 I can think of is the hybrid warranty on the
Hondas.  The federal emissions warranty is 80,000 miles, but I think
only 7 years.

There are many more than "two" Prius warranties.  basic, powertrain,
hybrid, federal emissions, CA emissions, accessories, and IIRC separate
ones for safety restraints and the early alignment.

quoting from question 17:
17. What is the warranty for Prius?

Toyota has extreme faith in our hybrid technology, so Prius comes
standard with the following coverage:

Basic: 36 months/36,000 miles (all components other than normal wear
and maintenance items).

Hybrid-Related Component Coverage: Hybrid-related components, including
the HV battery, battery control module, hybrid control module and
inverter with converter, are covered for 8 years/100,000 miles. The HV
battery may have longer coverage under emissions warranty. Refer to
applicable Owner's Warranty Information booklet for details.

Powertrain: 60 months/60,000 miles (engine, transmission/transaxle,
front-wheel drive, rear-wheel drive, seatbelts and airbags).

Rust-Through: 60 months/unlimited miles (corrosion perforation of sheet

Emissions: Coverages vary under Federal and California regulations.
Refer to applicable Owner's Warranty Information booklet for details.

Accessories: For accessories purchased at the time of the new vehicle
purchase, the Toyota Accessory Warranty coverage is in effect for 36
months/36,000 miles from the vehicle's in-service date, which is the
same coverage as the Toyota New Vehicle Limited Warranty. For
accessories purchased after the new vehicle purchase the coverage is 12
months, regardless of mileage, from the date the accessory was
installed on the vehicle, or the remainder of any applicable new
vehicle warranty, whichever provides greater coverage, with the
exception of car covers. Car covers are warranted for 12 months from
the date of purchase and do not assume any coverage under the Toyota
New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

You may be eligible for transportation assistance if it's necessary
that your vehicle be kept overnight for repairs covered under warranty.
Please see your authorized Toyota dealership for further details.

For complete details about Toyota's warranties, please visit
www.toyota.com, refer to the applicable Owner's Warranty Information
booklet or see your Toyota dealer.

Posted by Davoud on July 6, 2006, 10:30 pm

Cathy F. wrote:

Depends where you are. Fortuitous circumstances/lucky timing allowed me
to go to a Toyota dealership last month and drive away with the model I
wanted. The color ("magnetic gray" / gray leather) would not have been
my first choice, but it's OK. Passing it up would have meant getting on
a list.

I didn't drive my Prius before I bought it. I had driven an older one,

I'm not certain that driving a Prius is entirely about the owner saving
money. I think it's a political statement and a statement of where one
stands on the environment, oil wars, UBL, and all that business. Then
there's the act of being different from the hoi polloi, and, for many,
just a touch of smugness about it all. My Prius replaces a 13/17 pickup
truck <http://www.davidillig.com/starcar.shtml> .

I can't answer all of your questions. Detailed specifications for every
model year are available on-line, however.

My '06 does, but it has "Package #8" @ $890 list. You should go to
toyota.com and select the "Build and Price Your Toyota" option. You
will be able to view all of the standard and optional features.


I believe so.


My dealer knocked $100 of the msrp. The discount would have been less
with a lower-grade options package.

Don't know much -- too new. Handles well enough -- haven't skidded into
anything yet. Not much snow in MD in July.

Inside. Too loud for me, and I'm hard of hearing. I'm 62-years-old. I
have driven for many years (I was about 5-years-old when I soloed in a
motor vehicle) without a beeper to tell me I'm in reverse, and without


usenet *at* davidillig dawt com

Posted by Cathy F. on July 7, 2006, 3:47 am

I am Picky.  Picky-picky. So would've passed unless the color was one I
really wanted.  ASAlong w/ one of the prob. two pkgs. I want/could dela
with.  I know I don't want a high end pkg. - has stuff I'm not interested
in, & way too much $$.

Oh, if I'd already driven another Prius it wouldn't bother me to order one.
But I hadn't even -seen- one in person at that point!  Now, having test
driven the '04 model 2 years ago, I'd feel confident enough to just put in
an order should I decide to.

Oh, yes, I agree, re: the reasons for buying one.  OTOH, it also would be
cost-effective *if* a person's been driving a car that costs over $0K &/or
gets crummy gas mileage.  But in my case I've never spent over $7-ish for a
car, and I get decent mileage, & the Corolla has decently low emissions.  So
buying one would be a splurge - a rather large treat for myself.  Even
though it would also be a bit of a subtle statement.

Okay.  Although I realized I already know of one change. In '04 the basic
cPrius didn't come with a rear window wiper!  You had to order the next pkg.
up to get one, which for a liftback was absurd.  I know that the wiper is
now standard equipment - as it should've been from day #1, IMO.

Well, you know how the '04 was distinctly different from the '03?  It was a
big redesign.  And the other models get a makeover every 4 years - each
one's a new generation - that's what I meant.  Is there a big revision due
out 4 years after the '04 model was introduced?


You should go to

I've done that before, but I still don't remember seeing it listed.  Maybe
because it doesn't kick in until the high end pkgs??  I hope not, because
it's one amenity/detail I'd find really difficult to give up...  No more
accidentally leaving the lights on, no more forgetting to turn them on at
night in lit parking lots & then driving down the city streets sans

Is it in plain, normal, non-taxese English?? ;-P

Okay, thanks.  So maybe a little wiggle room.  Better than paying over
sticker, at least!

Okay, will have to look into this more if it becomes a reality. I wish one
could order tires the way other options are available...

You have me beat out - I'm 56 & have been driving since 16, but also tend to
know when I'm in reverse. ;-)  I can understand the beeper on the outside,
esp. for parking lots, or if one has little kids - or maybe even pets, as a
warning in the driveway.  But I really think I'd rather silence the thing!
And I have a long driveway - I'd guess my neighbors would rather it'd be
silenced, too.  Beep, beep, beep, beep.... arghhh.

Thanks for replying.


Posted by Bill on July 7, 2006, 4:11 am

I turned of my backup beep when I arrived home from the dealership and
haven't missed it a bit.  I have an '05 and don't know if it is as easy to
turn off in the '06.  I'm 65 and find the Prius comfortable and agile.  It's
a pleasure to drive compared to my Explorer.  Comparing mileage figures and
using, as I recall, $.68/gallon, my Prius will use about $4,000 less fuel
in 100,000 miles.  That's one hell of a lot of hydrocarbon emissions
eliminated too.  Remember, Cathy, if everyone got 50 mpg gas would be a lot

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