Posted by ransley on March 10, 2010, 1:32 pm
wrote:
> In article
> > ...is the transmission/shift 'fly by wire' as well
> Yes, it is.
> But putting it into neutral with my foot on the floor at 78mph worked
> just fine for me, not an hour ago. The drive disengages and the engine
> goes to idle.
Obviously something isnt disengaging with the computer as the throttle
should not be engaged to cause this. Hopefully this car is not wiped
clean by toyota. But I bet nothing is found. I had an issue with a
Caddy on 02, the computer kept saying maybe once every month
"Stability System Failure", it never recorded in the computer so
everytime I brought it in and shut it off it was clean, then one day
it failed, I canceled my destination and drove right to Cadilac , I
didnt shut it off till the service manager saw it, only then did he
believe me and replace the computer free of charge. They wont find the
issue, shutdown-restart reboots the computers, glitch is gone. Only
way to find it is keep a failed car running till NHTSA puts techs to
it without shutting it off, that could take days, keeping it running.
thats going to be impossible to do.
Posted by Davoud on March 11, 2010, 1:28 am
ransley wrote:
> Obviously something isnt disengaging with the computer as the throttle
> should not be engaged to cause this. Hopefully this car is not wiped
> clean by toyota.
I would not have allowed Toyota near the car. I would have insisted
that the NTSB or an independent laboratory examine the car (at Toyota's
expense). Would Toyota dare refuse? "TOYOTA WON'T ALLOW INDEPENDENT LAB
TO INSPECT RUNAWAY PRIUS -- FILM AND CUSTOMER CONDEMNATIONS AT 11."
Davoud
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Posted by Maynard G. Krebs on March 10, 2010, 4:51 pm
>> Mr. Sikes reported that his Prius accelerator pedal had
>> jumped while passing the other vehicle and had became
>> stuck in a position. Sikes' Prius reach about 90 mph
>> when the police car arrived about 20 minutes later. The
>> police car drove alongside the Sikes' Prius and used
>> a loudspeaker to instruct Mr Sikes to put the Prius
>> into neutral, apply the brake pedal to the floor, and
>> also to apply the emergency brake. Police officer Todd
>> Niebert said that he could smell Prius brakes burning
>> up and that he saw the Prius brake lights coming on.
> If the car is put in neutral, how is it that it was able to keep
> going? Only a total idiot would pull the emergency brake rather than
> simply putting the car in neutral.
He's an idiot:
"When the accelerator stuck, he said he weighed all his options. He feared
turning the car off in the middle of traffic, expecting the steering wheel
to lock. If he shifted into neutral, he worried that it would slip into
reverse. The floor mat, he said, wasn't interfering with the gas pedal.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-toyota-prius10-2010mar10,0,7196393.story?track=rss
Posted by Obveeus on March 10, 2010, 6:27 pm
>> If the car is put in neutral, how is it that it was able to keep
>> going? Only a total idiot would pull the emergency brake rather than
>> simply putting the car in neutral.
> He's an idiot:
> "When the accelerator stuck, he said he weighed all his options. He feared
> turning the car off in the middle of traffic, expecting the steering wheel
> to lock. If he shifted into neutral, he worried that it would slip into
> reverse.
He was worried more about breaking the transmission than he was about saving
his life? I hope the news reports on this guy do a bit of digging into his
background (for example his current financial status) to see if there might
be a reason for such a non-credible story.
Posted by Maynard G. Krebs on March 10, 2010, 10:44 pm
>>
>>> If the car is put in neutral, how is it that it was able to keep
>>> going? Only a total idiot would pull the emergency brake rather than
>>> simply putting the car in neutral.
>> He's an idiot:
>>
>> "When the accelerator stuck, he said he weighed all his options. He
>> feared turning the car off in the middle of traffic, expecting the
>> steering wheel to lock. If he shifted into neutral, he worried that it
>> would slip into reverse.
> He was worried more about breaking the transmission than he was about
> saving his life? I hope the news reports on this guy do a bit of digging
> into his background (for example his current financial status) to see if
> there might be a reason for such a non-credible story.
I also saw this guy on the news and he was saying that he didn't try
shifting into neutral because he was "afraid I'd flip the car". I don't
think that would happen even if he had deliberately shifted into to reverse!
I doubt that any modern car, with an automatic transmission, would allow you
to shift into reverse at any speed. Your transmission will not break! In
fact, my prior car had a manual shift and it was impossible to shift into
reverse when at any speed, it simply would go into reverse.
Here's a link to an article containing 2 videos of people shifting their
Prius's into neutral at speed and one where they shut down the engine going
over 70+ mph without ANY problems.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/techchron/archives/197221.asp
> > ...is the transmission/shift 'fly by wire' as well
> Yes, it is.
> But putting it into neutral with my foot on the floor at 78mph worked
> just fine for me, not an hour ago. The drive disengages and the engine
> goes to idle.