Posted by =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$ on February 24, 2010, 5:25 am
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:43:42 -0800, jim beam wrote:
> On 02/23/2010 08:33 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:59:48 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> In article<0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
>>> 8c5a097a99ef@b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley@Yahoo.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car
>>>>> into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>>>>> with a clue on this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>>
>>>> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know 70%
>>>> of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
>>>> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
>>>> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you Know
>>>> its bull for a fact.
>>>
>>> Uh, you must be mistaken.
>>> This fellow knows quite a bit about cars. And his auto insights have
>>> shown the Toyota problem is really GM's fault, along with Toyota owners
>>> who have lied before Congress. I would go so far as to say he is the
>>> world's foremost expert. And he has been kind enough to bring his
>>> Toyota insights to the tech group to educate all of us who do
>>> mechanical work on cars. I can't tell tell you how much we appreciate
>>> that.
>>
>>
>> Don't mention it. Any time you need any help, you just ask me. I'd be
>> glad to help you out. You do know what a car is, right?
>>
>> Here, one more time for you:
>>
>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car
>>>>> into reverse and I couldn't."
>
> all under oath...
>
> i've been to hearings like this and seen people perjure themselves with
> very little provocation or pay. it's not uncommon.
I'm not sure she perjured herself, but I'd bet she should NOT be behind
the wheel of a car. ANY car.
If you can't handle a situation like that, you shouldn't be driving. As I
said, she probably had it in "Sport" and didn't bring it back through the
gate into Neutral. That's the only way the car wouldn't stop in neutral.
And she must have gotten it stopped SOMEHOW, since she was there to tell
the tale.
Posted by jim beam on February 24, 2010, 5:41 am
On 02/23/2010 09:25 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:43:42 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>> On 02/23/2010 08:33 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:59:48 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article<0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
>>>> 8c5a097a99ef@b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley@Yahoo.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car
>>>>>> into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>>>>>> with a clue on this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know 70%
>>>>> of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
>>>>> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
>>>>> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you Know
>>>>> its bull for a fact.
>>>>
>>>> Uh, you must be mistaken.
>>>> This fellow knows quite a bit about cars. And his auto insights have
>>>> shown the Toyota problem is really GM's fault, along with Toyota owners
>>>> who have lied before Congress. I would go so far as to say he is the
>>>> world's foremost expert. And he has been kind enough to bring his
>>>> Toyota insights to the tech group to educate all of us who do
>>>> mechanical work on cars. I can't tell tell you how much we appreciate
>>>> that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't mention it. Any time you need any help, you just ask me. I'd be
>>> glad to help you out. You do know what a car is, right?
>>>
>>> Here, one more time for you:
>>>
>>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car
>>>>>> into reverse and I couldn't."
>>
>> all under oath...
>>
>> i've been to hearings like this and seen people perjure themselves with
>> very little provocation or pay. it's not uncommon.
> I'm not sure she perjured herself, but I'd bet she should NOT be behind
> the wheel of a car. ANY car.
> If you can't handle a situation like that, you shouldn't be driving. As I
> said, she probably had it in "Sport" and didn't bring it back through the
> gate into Neutral. That's the only way the car wouldn't stop in neutral.
> And she must have gotten it stopped SOMEHOW, since she was there to tell
> the tale.
oh, she's perjuring herself. i've seen this stuff many times - there's
a certain theatrical circus show to these things - and a cadre of
individuals that will show up and say the most blatantly untrue bullshit
in terms that make the average vaudevillian look like an amateur.
one case i saw, some dude showed up in a medial gown, with i.v. drips
taped to his arm testifying about some doctor saving his life. thing
was, this individual was shown not to be a patient of that doctor, nor
could he have been at the facility concerned. it was just theater
designed for show and to help sway a decision. i guess there's
out-of-work actors that need money /real/ bad.
--
nomina rutrum rutrum
Posted by =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$ on February 24, 2010, 6:10 am
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:41:29 -0800, jim beam wrote:
> On 02/23/2010 09:25 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:43:42 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/23/2010 08:33 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:59:48 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article<0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
>>>>> 8c5a097a99ef@b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley@Yahoo.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had
>>>>>>> no effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied
>>>>>>> the emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the
>>>>>>> car into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>>>>>>> with a clue on this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know
>>>>>> 70% of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
>>>>>> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
>>>>>> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you
>>>>>> Know its bull for a fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uh, you must be mistaken.
>>>>> This fellow knows quite a bit about cars. And his auto insights have
>>>>> shown the Toyota problem is really GM's fault, along with Toyota
>>>>> owners who have lied before Congress. I would go so far as to say he
>>>>> is the world's foremost expert. And he has been kind enough to bring
>>>>> his Toyota insights to the tech group to educate all of us who do
>>>>> mechanical work on cars. I can't tell tell you how much we appreciate
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't mention it. Any time you need any help, you just ask me. I'd be
>>>> glad to help you out. You do know what a car is, right?
>>>>
>>>> Here, one more time for you:
>>>>
>>>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had
>>>>>>> no effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied
>>>>>>> the emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the
>>>>>>> car into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>
>>> all under oath...
>>>
>>> i've been to hearings like this and seen people perjure themselves with
>>> very little provocation or pay. it's not uncommon.
>>
>> I'm not sure she perjured herself, but I'd bet she should NOT be behind
>> the wheel of a car. ANY car.
>>
>> If you can't handle a situation like that, you shouldn't be driving. As
>> I said, she probably had it in "Sport" and didn't bring it back through
>> the gate into Neutral. That's the only way the car wouldn't stop in
>> neutral.
>>
>> And she must have gotten it stopped SOMEHOW, since she was there to tell
>> the tale.
>
> oh, she's perjuring herself. i've seen this stuff many times - there's a
> certain theatrical circus show to these things - and a cadre of
> individuals that will show up and say the most blatantly untrue bullshit
> in terms that make the average vaudevillian look like an amateur.
>
> one case i saw, some dude showed up in a medial gown, with i.v. drips
> taped to his arm testifying about some doctor saving his life. thing was,
> this individual was shown not to be a patient of that doctor, nor could he
> have been at the facility concerned. it was just theater designed for
> show and to help sway a decision. i guess there's out-of-work actors that
> need money /real/ bad.
Like the time Mike J Fox didn't take his medication for two or three days
so his Parkinson's would be more pronounced.
Posted by larry moe 'n curly on February 24, 2010, 7:39 am
Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:41:29 -0800, jim beam wrote:
> > oh, she's perjuring herself. i've seen this stuff many times - there's a
> > certain theatrical circus show to these things - and a cadre of
> > individuals that will show up and say the most blatantly untrue bullshit
> > in terms that make the average vaudevillian look like an amateur.
> >
> > one case i saw, some dude showed up in a medial gown, with i.v. drips
> > taped to his arm testifying about some doctor saving his life. thing was,
> > this individual was shown not to be a patient of that doctor, nor could he
> > have been at the facility concerned. it was just theater designed for
> > show and to help sway a decision. i guess there's out-of-work actors that
> > need money /real/ bad.
> Like the time Mike J Fox didn't take his medication for two or three days
> so his Parkinson's would be more pronounced.
Thus ended Hachi's all-too-short smart streak. Fox wanted to show
what Parkinson's was like, and even when he was on full dosages, such
as when acting, he couldn't completely cover up the involuntary
movements. Stop listening to your hero Rush Limbaugh.
Posted by Hachiroku on February 24, 2010, 5:30 pm
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:39:08 -0800, larry moe 'n curly wrote:
> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:41:29 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>>
>> > oh, she's perjuring herself. i've seen this stuff many times -
>> > there's a certain theatrical circus show to these things - and a
>> > cadre of individuals that will show up and say the most blatantly
>> > untrue bullshit in terms that make the average vaudevillian look like
>> > an amateur.
>> >
>> > one case i saw, some dude showed up in a medial gown, with i.v. drips
>> > taped to his arm testifying about some doctor saving his life. thing
>> > was, this individual was shown not to be a patient of that doctor,
>> > nor could he have been at the facility concerned. it was just
>> > theater designed for show and to help sway a decision. i guess
>> > there's out-of-work actors that need money /real/ bad.
>>
>> Like the time Mike J Fox didn't take his medication for two or three
>> days so his Parkinson's would be more pronounced.
>
> Thus ended Hachi's all-too-short smart streak. Fox wanted to show what
> Parkinson's was like, and even when he was on full dosages, such as when
> acting, he couldn't completely cover up the involuntary movements. Stop
> listening to your hero Rush Limbaugh.
Hey, I know that. I really don't blame him, and I thought it was awful of
Rush to poke at him that way.
I understand Fox did it to show the full effect of the disease. My step
father had it, and by the time they drugged him up enough to stop the
trmoring, he was completely out of it.
Mike has my best wishes for sure. It is a horrible disease. But I knew
why he did what he did, in order to get his point across. And believe me,
it worked for me.
I may be a Conservative, but I DO have a HEART, ya know!
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>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:59:48 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> In article<0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
>>> 8c5a097a99ef@b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley@Yahoo.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car
>>>>> into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>>>>> with a clue on this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>>
>>>> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know 70%
>>>> of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
>>>> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
>>>> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you Know
>>>> its bull for a fact.
>>>
>>> Uh, you must be mistaken.
>>> This fellow knows quite a bit about cars. And his auto insights have
>>> shown the Toyota problem is really GM's fault, along with Toyota owners
>>> who have lied before Congress. I would go so far as to say he is the
>>> world's foremost expert. And he has been kind enough to bring his
>>> Toyota insights to the tech group to educate all of us who do
>>> mechanical work on cars. I can't tell tell you how much we appreciate
>>> that.
>>
>>
>> Don't mention it. Any time you need any help, you just ask me. I'd be
>> glad to help you out. You do know what a car is, right?
>>
>> Here, one more time for you:
>>
>>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>>> accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>>>>> effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>>>>> emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car
>>>>> into reverse and I couldn't."
>
> all under oath...
>
> i've been to hearings like this and seen people perjure themselves with
> very little provocation or pay. it's not uncommon.