Posted by =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$ on February 27, 2010, 7:51 pm
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:29:29 -0600, jim wrote:
>> you said, quote, "How is that going to help someone with an out of
>> control vehicle".
>>
>> that implies that there's nothing the driver can do to control it.
>
> No it implies that reading the manual is not an option when you are
> speeding down the highway with a runaway vehicle.
No shit Sherlock!
Don't you read the OM when you get a new car?
Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on February 27, 2010, 6:31 pm
> same with getting behind the wheel of a car dude - you are responsible
> for familiarizing yourself with the controls before pressing the "start"
> button.
day 1, to self: "I don't need an owner's manual, I know how to drive."
day 3, to Usenet: "Does anyone know how to set the radio station
presets on my shiny new 2010 model $5,000 toy?"
day 20, to Usenet: "The guy at the gas station told me I don't need 93
octane fuel, that I'm wasting my money! But I heard from a friend of
the guy who works at the Taco Bell near me that 93 octane will give my
Civic more power. Clearly, he's correct; I know it, I can feel it when
I drive. One time my wife put 87 in by mistake, and this baby was
hugely sluggish all around town until I drove around the outerbelt four
times to get rid of it so I could put Kwiki-Mart 93 back in."
day 45, to Usenet: "I took the car in for some warranty work, and Honda
said it needs its 3000 mile service; is $50 too much?"
day 93, to Usenet: "After Jiffy-Lube put engine oil into my auto trans
and then overfilled my crankcase by a quart and a half, those bastards
didn't reset my check engine light! Does anyone know how to reset that?
And can anyone confirm that my system takes 10W40 oil? 'Cuz that's what
they say they used."
(yes, I know I used "check engine light" and "Honda said"; that was
intentional...)
Posted by jim beam on February 27, 2010, 6:38 pm
On 02/27/2010 10:31 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> same with getting behind the wheel of a car dude - you are responsible
>> for familiarizing yourself with the controls before pressing the "start"
>> button.
> day 1, to self: "I don't need an owner's manual, I know how to drive."
> day 3, to Usenet: "Does anyone know how to set the radio station
> presets on my shiny new 2010 model $5,000 toy?"
> day 20, to Usenet: "The guy at the gas station told me I don't need 93
> octane fuel, that I'm wasting my money! But I heard from a friend of
> the guy who works at the Taco Bell near me that 93 octane will give my
> Civic more power. Clearly, he's correct; I know it, I can feel it when
> I drive. One time my wife put 87 in by mistake, and this baby was
> hugely sluggish all around town until I drove around the outerbelt four
> times to get rid of it so I could put Kwiki-Mart 93 back in."
> day 45, to Usenet: "I took the car in for some warranty work, and Honda
> said it needs its 3000 mile service; is $50 too much?"
> day 93, to Usenet: "After Jiffy-Lube put engine oil into my auto trans
> and then overfilled my crankcase by a quart and a half, those bastards
> didn't reset my check engine light! Does anyone know how to reset that?
> And can anyone confirm that my system takes 10W40 oil? 'Cuz that's what
> they say they used."
> (yes, I know I used "check engine light" and "Honda said"; that was
> intentional...)
right on.
--
nomina rutrum rutrum
Posted by E. Meyer on February 27, 2010, 5:24 pm
On 2/27/10 10:05 AM, in article 0r6dnRTgAvRO3xTWnZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d@bright.net,
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>>
>> so read the freakin' owners manual!
>
> How is that going to help someone with an out of control vehicle?
>
>>
>> besides, unless this is absolutely the first time this person has ever
>> sat behind the wheel of this vehicle, and hasn't yet turned it off, they
>> will have LEARNED that the button needs to be pressed for THREE SECONDS
>> to switch off the vehicle. duh.
>
> that may well be easy to do when you are stopped in your driveway, but
> if you are careening down the highway at an unreasonably fast speed your
> perception of how long 3 seconds is may be a tad altered.
>
> you are obviously a loon if you are trying to defend this as good
> design.
You both have your facts confused. It only takes three seconds to turn it
off if its running down the road in gear. When its sitting in the driveway
in Park, the normal state of cars about to be turned off, a single touch
turns it off.
Posted by =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$ on February 27, 2010, 7:45 pm
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:05:37 -0600, jim wrote:
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>
>> so read the freakin' owners manual!
>
> How is that going to help someone with an out of control vehicle?
We're kind of assuming you familiarize yourself with a vehicle loaded with
technology that may be unfamiliar BEFORE you find yourself hurtling
through space at 125 MPH. How had she been turning the car off before that?
>
>
>> besides, unless this is absolutely the first time this person has ever
>> sat behind the wheel of this vehicle, and hasn't yet turned it off, they
>> will have LEARNED that the button needs to be pressed for THREE SECONDS
>> to switch off the vehicle. duh.
>
> that may well be easy to do when you are stopped in your driveway, but if
> you are careening down the highway at an unreasonably fast speed your
> perception of how long 3 seconds is may be a tad altered.
>
> you are obviously a loon if you are trying to defend this as good
> design.
A lot of companies have adopted it. I think Honda was one of the first
with the S2000.
>> control vehicle".
>>
>> that implies that there's nothing the driver can do to control it.
>
> No it implies that reading the manual is not an option when you are
> speeding down the highway with a runaway vehicle.