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Posted by jim on February 27, 2010, 8:15 pm

"Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B" wrote:

    I think it was a '46 chevy coupe that was the first car I saw where you
pushed a button on the dash to start the car. It was considered cutting
edge technology. A big step forward from stepping on a pedal on the

Posted by Clive on February 27, 2010, 8:35 pm

I can remember cars from between the wars having starter buttons as
standard, it was a long time later that there was another space (other
than off and on) that allowed you to crank the engine with the key.

Posted by =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$ on February 28, 2010, 12:43 am

On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:15:05 -0600, jim wrote:

I was talking in terms of modern, electrically controlled ignition rather
than have a button on the dash in place of a soleniod.

But you knew that.

Posted by =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$ on February 27, 2010, 7:43 pm

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:15:21 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:

"God shut the car off" tells me all I need to know to determine she needs
to ride the bus.

So, how has she been shutting the car off since she bought it?
Buses aren't very expensive to ride.

A MONTH!!! Holy Crap! Mine have gone YEARS, but then, I don't expect an
Econobox to have Porsche performance.

Posted by Steve on February 24, 2010, 8:45 pm

Hachiroku wrote:

Conceptually the electronically controlled transmission can be inhibited
from switching to neutral whenever a wide-open throttle input is received.

Catch-22. Can't release the throttle, therefore you can't shift to
neutral, brakes don't override throttle and return the engine to idle,
and you have to hold the "start" button for >4 seconds to shut down the

Now only a moron would program a PCM that way. But then I thought only a
moron would fail to include brake-overrides-throttle logic in EVERY
electronic throttle model too. Silly me.

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