Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on October 6, 2009, 3:41 pm
"So, what is it about these floormats thatıs causing the problem?
Basically, any automakerıs floormats can slide forward if theyıre not
attached to a hook that keeps them in place. However, the Lexus and
Toyota models in question include a hook that can be detached from the
carpet, meaning there are two ways for the floormat to become dislodged.
According to Hanson, the design stems from the fact that floormats are
an option across the Toyota lineup, and someone buying a car without
them wouldnıt want a fixed stem protruding from the carpet."
If you look at the picture on the web site, then go look at your own
floor mats, you'll see the issue.
I can see it now: Toyota lawyers will design the fix such that the
floor mats are hooked to the seat frame in some fashion--which fixes the
complaint that hooks stick up from the floor itself--along with an
electrical wire which will break if the physical connection fails and
the mat moves. When the wire breaks, it will either light up a "floor
mat" light on the dash, or--more likely, given Toyota's nanny-state
lawyers--prevent the car from starting. They'll just light up the light
and hook it all into the same security ignition key system that's
already in the cars today, the car won't start until the wire's fixed,
and Bob's your uncle.
Sure, it's easy enough to short out that system and make it work no
matter what. But the owner would have taken active steps to do that,
and Toyota is off the hook (pun intended).
Posted by ron on October 6, 2009, 6:14 pm
Both our RAV4 and Highlander have the optional (hooked) floor mats as did
our 2005 Avalon. We, as a matter of course because of the snow/mud around
here, always throw after market mats on top. They have no hooks but
"lugs/spikes" on backing. Yes they sort of float and a time or two a month
need a 5 second repositioning. The Avalons (3 ) we had never had a problem
with the optional (hooked) floor mat moving.
Ron in Idaho
Posted by Gary L. Burnore on October 6, 2009, 9:29 pm
Some of the REALLY stupid parts of this is the guy who died and killed
his family was supposedly a cop. Even I, not a cop, know if your
car's a runaway, shut it off. If that doesn't work, neutral only
blows up the motor.
Secondly, just because some dumbass used a hair dryer in a shower we
have warnings on hair driers. Now warnings on floor mats. Hell, you
can't even set a new nav route in a toyota these days if the car is
moving. It's smart enough to tell if there is no one or a kid in the
passenger seat, can't it tell if there is for the nav?
Posted by News on October 6, 2009, 9:56 pm
Gary L. Burnore wrote:
How did anyone survive the 1950s/60s?
Posted by Al Falfa on October 7, 2009, 12:29 am
Good question. Look at this crash demonstration: