Posted by Not Me on October 14, 2009, 12:23 am
lexuspartsdept wrote:
>>> Both our RAV4 and Highlander have the optional (hooked) floor mats as did
>>> our 2005 Avalon. We, as a matter of course because of the snow/mud around
>>> here, always throw after market mats on top. They have no hooks but
>>> "lugs/spikes" on backing. Yes they sort of float and a time or two a month
>>> need a 5 second repositioning. The Avalons (3 ) we had never had a problem
>>> with the optional (hooked) floor mat moving.
>> Some of the REALLY stupid parts of this is the guy who died and killed
>> his family was supposedly a cop. Even I, not a cop, know if your
>> car's a runaway, shut it off. If that doesn't work, neutral only
>> blows up the motor.
>>
>> Secondly, just because some dumbass used a hair dryer in a shower we
>> have warnings on hair driers. Now warnings on floor mats. Hell, you
>> can't even set a new nav route in a toyota these days if the car is
>> moving. It's smart enough to tell if there is no one or a kid in the
>> passenger seat, can't it tell if there is for the nav?
>
> The whole problem is putting the mats on top of another. Look at the
> thickness when stacked and the clearance to the gas pedal.If properly
> installed with only one mat, there is no issue. However, no one reads
> the information provided with the mats,( read ignores), and we then
> have issues.
Doesn't explain single mat incidents involving failure of retainer pins
or failure to secure the mat on the pins, which happens all the time at
commercial car washes.
Posted by SMS on October 14, 2009, 1:21 am
Gary L. Burnore wrote:
> Hell, you
> can't even set a new nav route in a toyota these days if the car is
> moving. It's smart enough to tell if there is no one or a kid in the
> passenger seat, can't it tell if there is for the nav?
There is a workaround for the navigation issue. I've done it and it
works fine. See: "http://www.navigationbypass.com/products/hybrid_nav.php" .
Kind of a pain to have to do the secret sequence every time you start
the car, but it's very fast once you know how to do it.
They neglect to tell you that you need to disconnect power from the
navigation system (yank the fuse) for a minute so it will reset and
reboot from the new DVD.
Posted by Gary L. Burnore on October 17, 2009, 2:27 am
wrote:
>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>> Hell, you
>> can't even set a new nav route in a toyota these days if the car is
>> moving. It's smart enough to tell if there is no one or a kid in the
>> passenger seat, can't it tell if there is for the nav?
>There is a workaround for the navigation issue. I've done it and it
>works fine. See: "http://www.navigationbypass.com/products/hybrid_nav.php" .
>Kind of a pain to have to do the secret sequence every time you start
>the car, but it's very fast once you know how to do it.
>They neglect to tell you that you need to disconnect power from the
>navigation system (yank the fuse) for a minute so it will reset and
>reboot from the new DVD.
There's also a way to bypass the speed sensor for _only_ the sound
portion so you can change tunes and dial via bluetooth.
This is one of the most moronic things Toyota's ever done. The LEAST
they could do is turn off the block if someone's sitting in the
passenger seat or allow a "I'm old enough to decide on my own so stfu"
button.
Seems rather silly to cause someone to want to pick up their
phone/blackberry and dial rather than pick a number from a list on the
nav screen.
Posted by Lu R on October 17, 2009, 4:18 am
> wrote:
>>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>
>>> Hell, you
>>> can't even set a new nav route in a toyota these days if the car is
>>> moving. It's smart enough to tell if there is no one or a kid in the
>>> passenger seat, can't it tell if there is for the nav?
>>
>>There is a workaround for the navigation issue. I've done it and it
>>works fine. See:
>>"http://www.navigationbypass.com/products/hybrid_nav.php" .
>>
>>Kind of a pain to have to do the secret sequence every time you start
>>the car, but it's very fast once you know how to do it.
>>
>>They neglect to tell you that you need to disconnect power from the
>>navigation system (yank the fuse) for a minute so it will reset and
>>reboot from the new DVD.
> There's also a way to bypass the speed sensor for _only_ the sound
> portion so you can change tunes and dial via bluetooth.
> This is one of the most moronic things Toyota's ever done. The LEAST
> they could do is turn off the block if someone's sitting in the
> passenger seat or allow a "I'm old enough to decide on my own so stfu"
> button.
> Seems rather silly to cause someone to want to pick up their
> phone/blackberry and dial rather than pick a number from a list on the
> nav screen.
Thank goodness I bought the standard Prius model!! My handheld GPS works
just fine and doesnt cost an arm or leg to update either..
Posted by Al Falfa on October 17, 2009, 7:55 pm
> wrote:
>>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>>
>>> Hell, you
>>> can't even set a new nav route in a toyota these days if the car is
>>> moving. It's smart enough to tell if there is no one or a kid in the
>>> passenger seat, can't it tell if there is for the nav?
>>
>>There is a workaround for the navigation issue. I've done it and it
>>works fine. See:
>>"http://www.navigationbypass.com/products/hybrid_nav.php" .
>>
>>Kind of a pain to have to do the secret sequence every time you start
>>the car, but it's very fast once you know how to do it.
>>
>>They neglect to tell you that you need to disconnect power from the
>>navigation system (yank the fuse) for a minute so it will reset and
>>reboot from the new DVD.
> There's also a way to bypass the speed sensor for _only_ the sound
> portion so you can change tunes and dial via bluetooth.
> This is one of the most moronic things Toyota's ever done. The LEAST
> they could do is turn off the block if someone's sitting in the
> passenger seat or allow a "I'm old enough to decide on my own so stfu"
> button.
> Seems rather silly to cause someone to want to pick up their
> phone/blackberry and dial rather than pick a number from a list on the
> nav screen.
The easiest way to place a call from the 2010 equipped with the navigation
system is by voice command when a Bluetooth command phone is connected.
>>> our 2005 Avalon. We, as a matter of course because of the snow/mud around
>>> here, always throw after market mats on top. They have no hooks but
>>> "lugs/spikes" on backing. Yes they sort of float and a time or two a month
>>> need a 5 second repositioning. The Avalons (3 ) we had never had a problem
>>> with the optional (hooked) floor mat moving.
>> Some of the REALLY stupid parts of this is the guy who died and killed
>> his family was supposedly a cop. Even I, not a cop, know if your
>> car's a runaway, shut it off. If that doesn't work, neutral only
>> blows up the motor.
>>
>> Secondly, just because some dumbass used a hair dryer in a shower we
>> have warnings on hair driers. Now warnings on floor mats. Hell, you
>> can't even set a new nav route in a toyota these days if the car is
>> moving. It's smart enough to tell if there is no one or a kid in the
>> passenger seat, can't it tell if there is for the nav?
>
> The whole problem is putting the mats on top of another. Look at the
> thickness when stacked and the clearance to the gas pedal.If properly
> installed with only one mat, there is no issue. However, no one reads
> the information provided with the mats,( read ignores), and we then
> have issues.