mark_digital© wrote:
>> How do Prius rate in collisions...front...back...side...car falling on
>> them from outer space? Some friends of mine were killed in what I
>> thought was a safe large sedan recently and I guess it scared the hell
>> out of me about cars as being invulnerable chariots of safety...
>
> My own experience probably wouldn't be of any help to you because mine is a
> 2003. I can say though, from what I've observed, Prius owners seem to be
> less inclined to race a yellow light, and instead sit quietly for the next
> green. According to one study from a well known insurance company Prius
> drivers tend to abide by the speed limit.
> In this past week I've seen two SUV's in two seperate incidences roll over
> onto their side, back up traffic miles and miles while a wrecker right sided
> them back up. If it were up to me I'd let them sit there until the traffic
> died down. Carelessness shouldn't be rewarded by speedy service.
> mark_
>
>
Yes, but traffic would be slow until the vehicle is removed as everybody
"rubbernecks" to see the SUV on its side.
>mark_digital© wrote:
>>> How do Prius rate in collisions...front...back...side...car falling on
>>> them from outer space? Some friends of mine were killed in what I
>>> thought was a safe large sedan recently and I guess it scared the hell
>>> out of me about cars as being invulnerable chariots of safety...
>>
>> My own experience probably wouldn't be of any help to you because mine is a
>> 2003. I can say though, from what I've observed, Prius owners seem to be
>> less inclined to race a yellow light, and instead sit quietly for the next
>> green. According to one study from a well known insurance company Prius
>> drivers tend to abide by the speed limit.
>> In this past week I've seen two SUV's in two seperate incidences roll over
>> onto their side, back up traffic miles and miles while a wrecker right sided
>> them back up. If it were up to me I'd let them sit there until the traffic
>> died down. Carelessness shouldn't be rewarded by speedy service.
>> mark_
>>
>>
>Yes, but traffic would be slow until the vehicle is removed as everybody
>"rubbernecks" to see the SUV on its side.
On a vacation road trip through California freeways a few years ago, I
was very surprised to observe California drivers racing 85 mph past a
vehicle on the shoulder that had totally flipped over. No one
rubbernecked. And if someone was getting a ticket, no one stopped to
gawk like a tourist. Considering the sea of red tail lights if
someone just gets pulled over by the police in my home state, that's
at least one thing about California of which I am jealous.
> On a vacation road trip through California freeways a few years ago, I
> was very surprised to observe California drivers racing 85 mph past a
> vehicle on the shoulder that had totally flipped over. No one
> rubbernecked. And if someone was getting a ticket, no one stopped to
> gawk like a tourist. Considering the sea of red tail lights if
> someone just gets pulled over by the police in my home state, that's
> at least one thing about California of which I am jealous.
Things must have changed since I lived there. In the early '70s I worked in
Oakland and lived in Hayward. I got on the Nimitz freeway one evening to
find the congestion unusually bad. We crawled for a mile or so until we got
to a patrol car on the side of the freeway - no lights on, no other car -
and beyond that the traffic flowed freely. Feh!
Mike
BobDavis@nospamplease.net wrote:
> How do Prius rate in collisions...front...back...side...car falling on
> them from outer space?
Which Prius, Classic 2001-2003 NHW11 or the current 2004-2007 NHW20?
You'll find more info on the current NHW20 as the production numbers
are much higher (so more likely to be tested).
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), USA, gives the
2001-2003 Toyota Prius:
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/2562.html
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/1907.html
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/1721.html
frontal: 3 star driver, 4 star passenger; side: 3 star front seat, 3
star rear seat; 4 star rollover rating
2760 lbs. (Passenger car, Compact)
NHTSA gives the 2004-2005 Toyota Prius w/ no side air bags:
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/3268.html
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/2971.html
frontal: 5 star driver, 4 star passenger; side: 4 star front seat, 4
star rear seat; 4 star rollover rating
2954 lbs. (Passenger car, Compact)
NHTSA gives the 2006 Toyota Prius w/ no side air bags:
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/3588.html
frontal: 4 star driver, 4 star passenger; side: 4 star front seat, 4
star rear seat; 4 star rollover rating
2954 lbs. (Passenger car, Compact)
NHTSA gives the 2007 w/side air bags:
http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/4047.html
frontal: 5 star driver, 4 star passenger; side: 4 star front seat, 4
star rear seat; 4 star rollover rating
2954 lbs. (Passenger car, Compact)
Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) gives the 2004-2007
Prius:
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?idV6
(Frontal offset measured a "green G")
Class: Small car
Weight: 2,972 lbs.
Side airbags: front and rear head curtain airbags and front
seat-mounted torso airbags
(Side impact with front and rear head curtain airbags and front
seat-mounted torso airbags, measured a "green G")
Class: Small car
Weight: 2,959 lbs.
Side airbags: optional front and rear head curtain airbags and optional
front seat-mounted torso airbags
(Side impact without side airbags, measured a "red P")
Class: Small car
Weight: 2,945 lbs.
Side airbags: none
(Rear crash protection, measured an "orange M")
(Note that the US 2007 Prius now comes standard with the side and side
curtain airbags! SAB are no longer an option for new US Prius...)
European New Car Assessment Programme (NCAP), 2004 Toyota Prius:
http://www.euroncap.com/content/safety_ratings/details.php?id1=3&id2 3
Adult occupant rating: 5 stars; Pedestrian rating: 2 stars (of 4);
Child Protection rating: 4 stars.
Test Scores: Front 14 (88%) Side 18 (100%) Belt Reminder 2 Overall 34
Pedestrian 13 (36%) Child Protection 43 (88%)
(note that the tested European Prius comes with side air bags and VSC)
Class: Large family car
Weight: 1300 kg
Australasian New Car Assessment Program (ANCAP), (Australia & New
Zealand), 2004 Toyota Prius (i-tech model, which has side air bags):
http://www.howsafeisyourcar.com.au/_scripts/ancap_detail.php?IID 06
Overall: 5 stars (score of 33.72 out of 37); Pedestrian rating: 2 stars
(of 4)
National Agency for Automotive Safety & Victim's Aid (NASVA), (Japan),
2004 Toyota Prius (S model):
http://www.nasva.go.jp/mamoru/english/2005/type/12_prius.html
(includes crash videos!)
Class: Passenger Cars A Displacement 1500cc or less (excluding
1BOX&Minivans)
Displacement: 1,496cc
Vehicle weight: 1,250kg
Overall Collision Safety Ratings: Driver's seat: 6 stars (of 6) -
98.2%, front passenger's seat: 5 stars (of 6) - 89.7%
Full-wrap frontal collision test: Driver's seat: level 4 (of 5) -
85.9%, front passenger's seat: level 4 (of 5) - 79.3%
Offset frontal collision test: Driver's seat: level 5 (of 5) - 93.9%,
front passenger's seat: level 5 (of 5) - 96.9%
Side collision test: Driver's seat: level 5 (of 5) - 100%
Excellent job! 2002 and loving it. ONLY problem was on a hot, hot
summer day when idiot emergency light up and had to wait an hour.
Then it started and no idiot light came one. When we bought it, I
made a joke to the saleswoman about writing us up for two. She ran
off and came back with paperwork. We just bought one. A few years
later, you couldn't keep one on the lot. Now, there are lots. I've
heard some comments about them being loss leaders for credits for the
SUVs. Nowadays with gas prices, who knows what?
>BobDavis@nospamplease.net wrote:
>> How do Prius rate in collisions...front...back...side...car falling on
>> them from outer space?
>Which Prius, Classic 2001-2003 NHW11 or the current 2004-2007 NHW20?
>You'll find more info on the current NHW20 as the production numbers
>are much higher (so more likely to be tested).
>National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), USA, gives the
>2001-2003 Toyota Prius:
>http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/2562.html
>http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/1907.html
>http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/1721.html
>frontal: 3 star driver, 4 star passenger; side: 3 star front seat, 3
>star rear seat; 4 star rollover rating
>2760 lbs. (Passenger car, Compact)
>NHTSA gives the 2004-2005 Toyota Prius w/ no side air bags:
>http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/3268.html
>http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/2971.html
>frontal: 5 star driver, 4 star passenger; side: 4 star front seat, 4
>star rear seat; 4 star rollover rating
>2954 lbs. (Passenger car, Compact)
>NHTSA gives the 2006 Toyota Prius w/ no side air bags:
>http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/3588.html
>frontal: 4 star driver, 4 star passenger; side: 4 star front seat, 4
>star rear seat; 4 star rollover rating
>2954 lbs. (Passenger car, Compact)
>NHTSA gives the 2007 w/side air bags:
>http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/4047.html
>frontal: 5 star driver, 4 star passenger; side: 4 star front seat, 4
>star rear seat; 4 star rollover rating
>2954 lbs. (Passenger car, Compact)
>Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) gives the 2004-2007
>Prius:
>http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?idV6
>(Frontal offset measured a "green G")
>Class: Small car
>Weight: 2,972 lbs.
>Side airbags: front and rear head curtain airbags and front
>seat-mounted torso airbags
>(Side impact with front and rear head curtain airbags and front
>seat-mounted torso airbags, measured a "green G")
>Class: Small car
>Weight: 2,959 lbs.
>Side airbags: optional front and rear head curtain airbags and optional
>front seat-mounted torso airbags
>(Side impact without side airbags, measured a "red P")
>Class: Small car
>Weight: 2,945 lbs.
>Side airbags: none
>(Rear crash protection, measured an "orange M")
>(Note that the US 2007 Prius now comes standard with the side and side
>curtain airbags! SAB are no longer an option for new US Prius...)
>European New Car Assessment Programme (NCAP), 2004 Toyota Prius:
>http://www.euroncap.com/content/safety_ratings/details.php?id1=3&id2 3
>Adult occupant rating: 5 stars; Pedestrian rating: 2 stars (of 4);
>Child Protection rating: 4 stars.
>Test Scores: Front 14 (88%) Side 18 (100%) Belt Reminder 2 Overall 34
>Pedestrian 13 (36%) Child Protection 43 (88%)
>(note that the tested European Prius comes with side air bags and VSC)
>Class: Large family car
>Weight: 1300 kg
>Australasian New Car Assessment Program (ANCAP), (Australia & New
>Zealand), 2004 Toyota Prius (i-tech model, which has side air bags):
>http://www.howsafeisyourcar.com.au/_scripts/ancap_detail.php?IID 06
>Overall: 5 stars (score of 33.72 out of 37); Pedestrian rating: 2 stars
>(of 4)
>National Agency for Automotive Safety & Victim's Aid (NASVA), (Japan),
>2004 Toyota Prius (S model):
>http://www.nasva.go.jp/mamoru/english/2005/type/12_prius.html
>(includes crash videos!)
>Class: Passenger Cars A Displacement 1500cc or less (excluding
>1BOX&Minivans)
>Displacement: 1,496cc
>Vehicle weight: 1,250kg
>Overall Collision Safety Ratings: Driver's seat: 6 stars (of 6) -
>98.2%, front passenger's seat: 5 stars (of 6) - 89.7%
>Full-wrap frontal collision test: Driver's seat: level 4 (of 5) -
>85.9%, front passenger's seat: level 4 (of 5) - 79.3%
>Offset frontal collision test: Driver's seat: level 5 (of 5) - 93.9%,
>front passenger's seat: level 5 (of 5) - 96.9%
>Side collision test: Driver's seat: level 5 (of 5) - 100%
>> them from outer space? Some friends of mine were killed in what I
>> thought was a safe large sedan recently and I guess it scared the hell
>> out of me about cars as being invulnerable chariots of safety...
>
> My own experience probably wouldn't be of any help to you because mine is a
> 2003. I can say though, from what I've observed, Prius owners seem to be
> less inclined to race a yellow light, and instead sit quietly for the next
> green. According to one study from a well known insurance company Prius
> drivers tend to abide by the speed limit.
> In this past week I've seen two SUV's in two seperate incidences roll over
> onto their side, back up traffic miles and miles while a wrecker right sided
> them back up. If it were up to me I'd let them sit there until the traffic
> died down. Carelessness shouldn't be rewarded by speedy service.
> mark_
>
>