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Posted by David Kelly on August 16, 2008, 1:02 am
Michelle Steiner wrote:

Oh, so if I lower my Prius tire pressures from 42/40 to the "proper"
pressure Toyota specifies then according to Obama I would improve MPG?

Lowering tire pressure never improves MPG. Once again I was being
generous with giving credit.

Obama is being his usual wussie self, afraid to color outside the lines
someone else has drawn. Would be funny if it wasn't so sad watching him
try to run in front of the parade, pretending to lead the parade, while
looking back more than ahead afraid he won't "lead" down the street the
parade is headed. Most recent example: Georgia vs USSR.

Rice For President in '08!

Posted by Pete Granzeau on August 16, 2008, 7:59 pm

I'm not intimately acquainted to whatever the hell Senator Obama said
about tire pressure, but inasmuch as something well over half of the
cars on the road (including, often, mine) have less than the recommended
tire pressure, I am sure that the statement was intended for them, not
for you.

Who?  Elmer Rice?  I thought he was dead.

Posted by Michelle Steiner on August 16, 2008, 8:20 pm

Are you intentionally being dense and/or argumentative?  He was
referring to the multitude of people who never check their tire pressure
and run on low tires.  He was saying that if they filled their tires to
the proper pressure, they would increase their gas mileage.

Baloney!  At least he's not pandering to the petroleum industry and
coming up with idiotic ideas like drilling in places that won't show any
returns for thirty years, and even then have only a minimal effect on
oil prices.

It will never happen.

Donate to the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society; help send Michelle to the marathon.

Posted by Chas Gill on August 15, 2008, 9:42 am

The North American Prius (I understand) has, effectively, a block warmer, in
that it stores hot engine coolant in a thermally insulated vessel and pumps
it back on restart.  I am also given to understand that this might be to
comply with certain anti-pollution legislation in some States, but it still
seems like a very good idea in terms of fuel efficiency.  Why the hell it
isn't included in the European version beats me (along with the lack of
heaters on the door mirrors).  The Japanese seem to have some strange ideas
about the European climate.........


Posted by David Kelly on August 16, 2008, 1:16 am
 Chas Gill wrote:

Newer NHW20's have the thermos bottle. None have a "block heater" as
Original Equipment (OE) from Toyota.

No, has nothing to do with pollution control.

"It doesn't hurt anything, much." It is added complexity. It is added
weight. It didn't improve things enough to show on the EPA fuel economy

Europeans have some strange ideas about the North American climate.
German engineers at VW had a fit when Americans were allowed to select
the A/C gear for the then-new 1985 VW Golf. The car was to be produced
in North America so it stood to reason to use domestic A/C hardware.
What shocked the Germans was the North American unit had about twice the
capacity as fitted in Europe. Americans loved it. I loved the A/C in my
1986 VW Golf. Otherwise the car assembled in Westmoreland, PA, fit
together worse than any junkyard repair I have ever seen.

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