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Posted by bwilson4web on June 29, 2011, 9:19 am
 
Thanks to our local troll, someone in a Huntsville forum was asking about b=
uying a Prius. So I posted this answer:
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Like most things: good, fast, cheap ... pick two of three. We have two, a 2=
003 Prius (NHW11) bought used in 2005 with 49,000 miles and a 2010 Prius (Z=
VW30) bought new in 2009. You haven't mentioned budget but let's go over th=
e models and characteristics:

NHW11 (2001-03) - 1.5L sedan styled like a Ford Focus

With just under 90,000 miles added, we are getting a life-time average of 5=
2 MPG:
http://www.myhybridcar.com/fuel-economy/toyota-prius/70-nhw11-2003.html

However, as the first Prius in North America, there were a lot of lessons l=
earned. Still there are good buys available IF you are willing to turn a wr=
ench and it so happens, I live in Huntsville and do 'house calls' with scan=
ners, maintenance manuals, and spare parts. Recently, I helped Stephen B. g=
et his 2002 Prius bought for $,000 at auction back on the road again. He h=
ad two problems, inverter and transaxle problems, but for only for $00 and=
 some 'sweat equity,' he is on the road and happens to have a spare, workin=
g traction battery.

NHW20 (2004-09) - 1.5L, hatchback

The 2004-05 had a latent weakness in some solder joints but there are fixes=
 available. The 2006-09 have no know weaknesses but I don't follow them clo=
sely.

ZVW30 (2010-current) - larger, 1.8L Prius hatchback

Larger than the NHW20 with a more powerful transaxle, this is depending upo=
n how you count them, at least the 3d or 4th generation Prius. It has a sub=
stantial number of improvements. I also used an accelerometer to map the br=
ake-pause problem and confirm it is fixed.

Used Prius Market

There is an NHW11 Prius in Birmingham with ~160,000 miles and a problem tha=
t sounds like "safe home mode" for sale for $,500 including a free tow to =
Huntsville. It is on Craig's list and if you decide to investigate, contact=
 me and I can loan you a scanner to check out the codes. Once we know what =
is broke, we can fix it. Stephen had tested the car and did not detect the =
failed transaxle problem.

Another friend is going back to school and selling his Prius. So back in Ap=
ril, I mapped the completed sale prices of different Prius:
http://hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/prius/ebay_010.jpg

If you'd like more information, I'd recommend:
YahooGroup - "Prius_Technical_Stuff" that started in November 2000, 30 days=
 after the first Prius in the USA. Check out the photos and files areas.
YahooGroup - "Prius_Owners" a little less technical and more user oriented.
http://hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/prius/  - my niche in the net.
http://www.myhybridcar.com/forums/  - great place for a mileage database and=
 a place I help moderate ... very anti-SPAM
http://www.myhybridcar.com/forums/  - for those who have a wider view of fue=
l efficiency and 'do the experiment.' One of the places I happily donate to=
 support ... donations are optional and access if free.
http://priuschat.com/  - another source, a place to search and/or ask questi=
ons.
USENET alt.autos.toyota.prius - unmoderated so some SPAM and trolls.

= = = = = = =

Bob Wilson

Posted by bwilson4web on June 29, 2011, 9:26 am
 
Thanks to our local troll, someone in a Huntsville forum was asking
about buying a Prius. So I posted this answer:
= = = = = = =
Like most things: good, fast, cheap ... pick two of three. We have
two, a 2003 Prius (NHW11) bought used in 2005 with 49,000 miles and a
2010 Prius (ZVW30) bought new in 2009. You haven't mentioned budget
but let's go over the models and characteristics:

NHW11 (2001-03) - 1.5L sedan styled like a Ford Focus

With just under 90,000 miles added, we are getting a life-time average
of 52 MPG:
http://www.myhybridcar.com/fuel-economy/toyota-prius/70-nhw11-2003.html

However, as the first Prius in North America, there were a lot of
lessons learned. Still there are good buys available IF you are
willing to turn a wrench and it so happens, I live in Huntsville and
do 'house calls' with scanners, maintenance manuals, and spare parts.
Recently, I helped Stephen B. get his 2002 Prius bought for $,000 at
auction back on the road again. He had two problems, inverter and
transaxle problems, but for only for $00 and some 'sweat equity,' he
is on the road and happens to have a spare, working traction battery.

NHW20 (2004-09) - 1.5L, hatchback

The 2004-05 had a latent weakness in some solder joints but there are
fixes available. The 2006-09 have no know weaknesses but I don't
follow them closely.

ZVW30 (2010-current) - larger, 1.8L Prius hatchback

Larger than the NHW20 with a more powerful transaxle, this is
depending upon how you count them, at least the 3d or 4th generation
Prius. It has a substantial number of improvements. I also used an
accelerometer to map the brake-pause problem and confirm it is fixed.

Used Prius Market

There is an NHW11 Prius in Birmingham with ~160,000 miles and a
problem that sounds like "safe home mode" for sale for $,500
including a free tow to Huntsville. It is on Craig's list and if you
decide to investigate, contact me and I can loan you a scanner to
check out the codes. Once we know what is broke, we can fix it.
Stephen had tested the car and did not detect the failed transaxle
problem.

Another friend is going back to school and selling his Prius. So back
in April, I mapped the completed sale prices of different Prius:
http://hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/prius/ebay_010.jpg

If you'd like more information, I'd recommend:
YahooGroup - "Prius_Technical_Stuff" that started in November 2000, 30
days after the first Prius in the USA. Check out the photos and files
areas.
YahooGroup - "Prius_Owners" a little less technical and more user
oriented.
http://hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/prius/  - my niche in the net.
http://www.myhybridcar.com/forums/  - great place for a mileage
database and a place I help moderate ... very anti-SPAM
http://www.myhybridcar.com/forums/  - for those who have a wider view
of fuel efficiency and 'do the experiment.' One of the places I
happily donate to support ... donations are optional and access if
free.
http://priuschat.com/  - another source, a place to search and/or ask
questions.
USENET alt.autos.toyota.prius - unmoderated so some SPAM and trolls.

= = = = = = =

Bob Wilson

Posted by Daniel who wants to know on June 29, 2011, 1:38 pm
 <snipped>

Why the quadruple post Bob?



Posted by bwilson4web on July 1, 2011, 6:49 am
 
Earlier this week, the Google interface was . . . unresponsive. I got
a "message posted" but didn't see it show up in the forum. Sad to say,
I've been dealing with a dental problem and I wasn't in my "A" game.
Dental pain sure is distracting.

Bob Wilson

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