Posted by EdV on November 27, 2007, 2:12 pm
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> wrote:
> >Go to the site, search for your keyword, few problems but I suspect that is
> >not what you want to hear.
> All accounts are that hybrid batteries are holding up very well and
> the companies don't expect to replace many under the 8 year warranty.
> Toyota says it has not replaced a single battery pack due to wear and
> tear or failure. That includes some Priuses with over 200,000 miles.
Pardon my ignorance in hybrids, I dont personally know anyone who owns
a prius. I asked because I've seen some car ads selling used Prius
batteries. Who buys them if all hybrid batteries are holding up?,
maybe those car owners don't go to Toyota since used batteries are
cheaper. Though I dont know how complicated it is to DIY a hybrid
battery replacement. Are there companies who replace bad cells on a
hybrid battery pack such that they revive 2 scrap battery and create
one refurbished battery pack. Its just that I've heard this kind of
repair method on some laptop battery computers.
What would be an indication that a hybrid battery is going or gone
bad? poor mpg, stalled vehicle?
Posted by Gordon McGrew on November 28, 2007, 6:54 am
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>wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Go to the site, search for your keyword, few problems but I suspect that is
>> >not what you want to hear.
>>
>> All accounts are that hybrid batteries are holding up very well and
>> the companies don't expect to replace many under the 8 year warranty.
>> Toyota says it has not replaced a single battery pack due to wear and
>> tear or failure. That includes some Priuses with over 200,000 miles.
>>
>>
>>
>Pardon my ignorance in hybrids, I dont personally know anyone who owns
>a prius. I asked because I've seen some car ads selling used Prius
>batteries. Who buys them if all hybrid batteries are holding up?,
There are a fair number of experimenters making all-electric cars and
modifying hybrids to be plug-in hybrids. Prius batteries would be
quite useful to these people. Consider your question in a different
way. If hybrid batteries didn't hold up, who would be buying used
ones?
>maybe those car owners don't go to Toyota since used batteries are
>cheaper. Though I dont know how complicated it is to DIY a hybrid
>battery replacement.
Well, keep in mind that the battery and other hybrid components are
warranted for 8 years/100,000 miles, relatively few are out of
warranty. Even if Toyota's claim means only that none were replaced
under warranty, that would indicate that they are holding up pretty
well.
>Are there companies who replace bad cells on a
>hybrid battery pack such that they revive 2 scrap battery and create
>one refurbished battery pack. Its just that I've heard this kind of
>repair method on some laptop battery computers.
Yes, bad cells can be replaced.
>What would be an indication that a hybrid battery is going or gone
>bad? poor mpg, stalled vehicle?
Don't know bout that.
Posted by L Alpert on December 2, 2007, 12:53 pm
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Go to the site, search for your keyword, few problems but I
>>>> suspect that is not what you want to hear.
>>>
>>> All accounts are that hybrid batteries are holding up very well and
>>> the companies don't expect to replace many under the 8 year
>>> warranty. Toyota says it has not replaced a single battery pack due
>>> to wear and tear or failure. That includes some Priuses with over
>>> 200,000 miles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Pardon my ignorance in hybrids, I dont personally know anyone who
>> owns a prius. I asked because I've seen some car ads selling used
>> Prius batteries. Who buys them if all hybrid batteries are holding
>> up?,
> There are a fair number of experimenters making all-electric cars and
> modifying hybrids to be plug-in hybrids.
One would have to see the numbers for this plug in to recharge application.
Electric rates are +$.20 KWH where I live!
Posted by News on December 2, 2007, 2:44 pm
L Alpert wrote:
> Gordon McGrew wrote:
>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Go to the site, search for your keyword, few problems but I
>>>>>suspect that is not what you want to hear.
>>>>
>>>>All accounts are that hybrid batteries are holding up very well and
>>>>the companies don't expect to replace many under the 8 year
>>>>warranty. Toyota says it has not replaced a single battery pack due
>>>>to wear and tear or failure. That includes some Priuses with over
>>>>200,000 miles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Pardon my ignorance in hybrids, I dont personally know anyone who
>>>owns a prius. I asked because I've seen some car ads selling used
>>>Prius batteries. Who buys them if all hybrid batteries are holding
>>>up?,
>>
>>There are a fair number of experimenters making all-electric cars and
>>modifying hybrids to be plug-in hybrids.
>
>
> One would have to see the numbers for this plug in to recharge application.
> Electric rates are +$.20 KWH where I live!
>
>
The ideal solution would be middle of the night/off-peak charging, where
rates are frequently a small fraction of average.
Posted by L Alpert on December 2, 2007, 4:32 pm
News wrote:
> L Alpert wrote:
>> Gordon McGrew wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:12:10 -0800 (PST), EdV
>>>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Go to the site, search for your keyword, few problems but I
>>>>>> suspect that is not what you want to hear.
>>>>>
>>>>> All accounts are that hybrid batteries are holding up very well
>>>>> and the companies don't expect to replace many under the 8 year
>>>>> warranty. Toyota says it has not replaced a single battery pack
>>>>> due to wear and tear or failure. That includes some Priuses with
>>>>> over 200,000 miles.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pardon my ignorance in hybrids, I dont personally know anyone who
>>>> owns a prius. I asked because I've seen some car ads selling used
>>>> Prius batteries. Who buys them if all hybrid batteries are holding
>>>> up?,
>>>
>>> There are a fair number of experimenters making all-electric cars
>>> and modifying hybrids to be plug-in hybrids.
>>
>>
>> One would have to see the numbers for this plug in to recharge
>> application. Electric rates are +$.20 KWH where I live!
>>
>>
> The ideal solution would be middle of the night/off-peak charging,
> where rates are frequently a small fraction of average.
We have no allowances for off peak usage that I know of.
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> >Go to the site, search for your keyword, few problems but I suspect that is
> >not what you want to hear.
> All accounts are that hybrid batteries are holding up very well and
> the companies don't expect to replace many under the 8 year warranty.
> Toyota says it has not replaced a single battery pack due to wear and
> tear or failure. That includes some Priuses with over 200,000 miles.