Posted by Retired VIP on December 4, 2007, 2:48 am
wrote:
>richard schumacher wrote:
>>
>>>> The ideal solution would be middle of the night/off-peak charging,
>>>> where rates are frequently a small fraction of average.
>>>
>>> We have no allowances for off peak usage that I know of.
>>
>> You should investigate alternate electric providers, if available.
>Yes, I have. They are all within about $.01-.005 per KWH. The deregulation
>smells of collusion.
It isn't collusion, it's fraud. The, so called, alternate electric
providers don't provide anything except an alternate address to mail
your check to. The electricity they sell you is purchased from the
old provider and brought to your house by the old provider. How can
it be much cheaper than the electricity the old company sells to you?
Here's a dirty little secret they don't tell you. In order to get a
slightly cheaper rate, they sign interruptible contracts with the
generating company. If there is a shortage of power your electricity
is shut off.
You better look into the gift horse's mouth if you know what's good
for you.
Jack
Posted by News on December 4, 2007, 3:02 am
Retired VIP wrote:
>
> Here's a dirty little secret they don't tell you. In order to get a
> slightly cheaper rate, they sign interruptible contracts with the
> generating company. If there is a shortage of power your electricity
> is shut off.
Aha, so on the same aerial plant, the electrons bypass houses of AEP
customers, but keep going to traditional utility customers!
How do you suppose they do that?
Posted by Mr Ed on December 4, 2007, 2:48 pm
> Retired VIP wrote:
>>
>> Here's a dirty little secret they don't tell you. In order to get a
>> slightly cheaper rate, they sign interruptible contracts with the
>> generating company. If there is a shortage of power your electricity
>> is shut off.
> Aha, so on the same aerial plant, the electrons bypass houses of AEP
> customers, but keep going to traditional utility customers!
> How do you suppose they do that?
My entrance has a box controlled by "carrier current" transmissions. In the
summer when A/C's are all running, all over, on an extremely hot day, my A/C
will shut down for short periods. The saving isn't much but I rarely notice
my house getting warmer. My KWH here is about $.08. I've switched to heat
pump & electric heat over heat pump & oil this year to see if there are any
savings.
Mr Ed
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Posted by News on December 4, 2007, 2:55 pm
Mr Ed wrote:
>
>>
>>Retired VIP wrote:
>>
>>>Here's a dirty little secret they don't tell you. In order to get a
>>>slightly cheaper rate, they sign interruptible contracts with the
>>>generating company. If there is a shortage of power your electricity
>>>is shut off.
>>
>>
>>Aha, so on the same aerial plant, the electrons bypass houses of AEP
>>customers, but keep going to traditional utility customers!
>>
>>How do you suppose they do that?
>
>
> My entrance has a box controlled by "carrier current" transmissions. In the
> summer when A/C's are all running, all over, on an extremely hot day, my A/C
> will shut down for short periods.
And your lights dim, too?
All your UPS brownout trigger?
Posted by Mr Ed on December 5, 2007, 2:28 pm
Only my A/C shuts down for short periods. No brown outs. I know the power
Co. often lowers the voltage on hot days, but they are aware that
synchronous motors & Compressors, trying to maintain the same power, will
draw "more" amperage not less. Resistive loads will draw less.
Mr Ed
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> Mr Ed wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Retired VIP wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here's a dirty little secret they don't tell you. In order to get a
>>>>slightly cheaper rate, they sign interruptible contracts with the
>>>>generating company. If there is a shortage of power your electricity
>>>>is shut off.
>>>
>>>
>>>Aha, so on the same aerial plant, the electrons bypass houses of AEP
>>>customers, but keep going to traditional utility customers!
>>>
>>>How do you suppose they do that?
>>
>>
>> My entrance has a box controlled by "carrier current" transmissions. In
>> the summer when A/C's are all running, all over, on an extremely hot day,
>> my A/C will shut down for short periods.
> And your lights dim, too?
> All your UPS brownout trigger?
>>
>>>> The ideal solution would be middle of the night/off-peak charging,
>>>> where rates are frequently a small fraction of average.
>>>
>>> We have no allowances for off peak usage that I know of.
>>
>> You should investigate alternate electric providers, if available.
>Yes, I have. They are all within about $.01-.005 per KWH. The deregulation
>smells of collusion.