Posted by Gordon McGrew on December 5, 2007, 12:45 am
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:48:49 GMT, Retired VIP
Far be it for me to defend the electric companies, but this
interruptible power issue is clearly bullshit. The only way for them
to cut off your power without cutting off your neighbor (who may be
their customer) is to come to your house and do it. I can't see the
power company coming out in trucks during a shortage to disconnect
every home on their non-customer list.
Posted by Scott in Florida on December 5, 2007, 12:57 am
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:45:23 -0600, Gordon McGrew
You are wrong.
I have had interruptible power in my home here since 1979 when we moved in.
The electric company put two systems in the house.
1. Interrupts the Air Conditioner.
2. The Hot Water Heater
3. The Electric Heat.
4. The pool pump motor.
When they need to turn off one of my systems they send a code out and the
power to that system is interrupted for the contracted time.
The system has been working since 1979.
Florida Power and Light has paid me a good penny over the years....LOL
Scott in Florida
Posted by Gordon McGrew on December 3, 2007, 12:42 am
Not accounting for storage losses and drivetrain inefficiency, I would
estimate that $.20/KWH equates to gas at $.80 to 1.60 per gallon.
Posted by Gordon McGrew on December 5, 2007, 1:00 am
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:59:25 -0800 (PST), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
But you didn't finish the story. Ray ended up having the corroded
cell cleaned up and reinstalled and the car ran like new again. If
Ray had found a knowledgeable and honest service facility to start
with, the problem would have been fixed in a few hours for maybe a
couple hundred dollars.
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I shared Ray's story with my friend, Craig Van Batenburg, a master
hybrid technician who conducts workshops with independent service
shops around the country. "This is exactly why I am training indy
techs to work on these cars," Craig said. "It is not a problem with
the nickel metal hydride cells, but a corroded connection. This is
common with any electrical connector on any part of any car. The
dealerships donít fix the connections. They replace the entire hybrid
So Rayís ordeal wasnít caused by a failure of new hybrid battery
technology - those batteries will last the life of the vehicle and
will help save hundreds of gallons of gasoline for their owners. And
the next generation of lithium ion batteries may be one of the keys to
weaning America off its dependence on oil. The root of Ray's problems
stemmed from an ordinary corroded connection, the failure of a huge
corporation to respond to one of their customers, and the willingness
of a local car dealership to profit handsomely from a problem rather
than fix it at a reasonable cost. Unfortunately, these stories are
just as hidden in the media as all of those so-called "hidden costs"
of owning a hybrid.
-- end quote --
Posted by EdV on December 5, 2007, 3:32 am
Probably used coca cola to clean the battery terminals =)
Nice link. Thanks