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Posted by Ike on April 5, 2009, 12:57 am
Cathy F. wrote:

As I recall, that general aerodynamic shape is called the KAMM BACK.
Audi A2, Insight (both), Prius -- all are in that family, along with
many competition cars. Perhaps the horrific Pontiac Aztec, as well.


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Posted by Cathy F. on April 5, 2009, 1:15 am

The back/tail end, AFAIK, is what constitutes the Kamm back.  Not the entire
general shape.


Posted by Ike on April 5, 2009, 1:35 am
 Cathy F. wrote:

Well, no. There's a mathematical description of the shape, in which the
butt truncation occurs where its cross-sectional area is equal to a
specific percentage of the maximum cross section of the vehicle (about
half, I think). It's the gestalt - the whole car.


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whatsoever of avoiding an economic collapse, rampant inflation, and
sociological cataclysm.

Posted by Cathy F. on April 5, 2009, 2:25 am

You know what...?  Whichever it is technically, I do not think the original
Insight resembled the new one, nor the Prius (which the new Insight does
resemble - shape-wise).  And... why would Honda even *want* the new Insight
to resemble the old one, considering how that one fared?  They need a fresh
new start with this version, which I think they're getting.


Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on March 31, 2009, 10:29 am

Their goal is to create a less expensive alternative.  They're balancing
a good purchase cost with good, but not phenomenal, fuel economy.

Oh--and they're catering to the trendy who have to show off with a
hybrid-exclusive body style.

Prius is $K more expensive, and for that you get better fuel economy
and more available options.

I think Toyota is going to come in with a Yaris that's smaller and
cheaper than the Honda, which means they'll bracket the Honda when all
is said and done.

Competition is great.

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