Posted by Michael Pardee on January 5, 2007, 1:45 am
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>>> Hybrid car cost calculator
>>>
>>> www.eere.energy.gov/cleancities/hev/calculator
>>>
>>> Thinking about purchasing a hybrid vehicle? This Department of Energy
>>> site will allow you to compare the lifetime costs and air emissions of
>>> a hybrid to those of a conventional vehicle. It even has data on makes
>>> and models, so you won't have to enter any information.
>>>
>>> For example: Compare a 4-cylinder Toyota Prius to a 6-cylinder Ford
>>> Escape. For the Prius, the purchase price is $9,222, with a fuel
>>> economy of 60 mpg in the city and 51 on the highway. The Ford Escape,
>>> at $3,280, gets 18 mpg in the city and 22 on the highway.
>>>
>>> Enter your annual mileage (15,000), the lifespan of your vehicle (7
>>> years) and average gasoline cost ($.20). Other factors are resale
>>> value and annual maintenance costs. Enter yours or use the site's
>>> default for your chosen vehicles. In this case, the cumulative cost of
>>> the Prius over seven years was $0,838.30 (taking into consideration a
>>> resale value of $,598.53), while the cumulative cost of the Escape
>>> was $0,914.28 (with a resale value of $,269.98). That's an average
>>> annual savings of $,439.43 and an average per-mile savings of $.10
>>> with the Prius.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> If the calculator is right, I'm more than $000 ahead with the Prius over
>> the comparable (but downscale) Corolla! Ours is a 2002 model, which was
>> $0.5K when we bought it.
>>
>> Of course, that is assuming gas will stay around $.20 for the next ten
>> years. It will, won't it? When we bought the Prius the comparisons were
>> being made with gas at $.50.
>>
>> Mike
>>
> How much did it cost you for a brake job? The tranny? Or anything else
> that craps out on other cars?
I used the stock figures in the calculator, but as a hard-core DIYer I pay
the cost of parts. For our two 2002 Prius cars, with 170K miles between
them, that is just tires and one windshield apiece. Plus oil, filters,
coolant... of course. At 105K miles my Prius has more than half the front
pads left. One of these days I ought to actually measure them. Disclaimer: I
bought mine at 103K miles a couple months ago; I'm going by the service
records.
Mike
Posted by Dick Byrd on January 5, 2007, 2:08 am
You compared the Prius to a Ford Escape. Try the comparison to a Toyota
Corolla, which only costs about $4,000 and it gets 38 mpg on the highway.
In this comparison it takes many years and miles to justify the Prius.
BTW: I have a new 2006 Prius and I love it.
Dick
> Hybrid car cost calculator
> www.eere.energy.gov/cleancities/hev/calculator
> Thinking about purchasing a hybrid vehicle? This Department of Energy
> site will allow you to compare the lifetime costs and air emissions of
> a hybrid to those of a conventional vehicle. It even has data on makes
> and models, so you won't have to enter any information.
> For example: Compare a 4-cylinder Toyota Prius to a 6-cylinder Ford
> Escape. For the Prius, the purchase price is $9,222, with a fuel
> economy of 60 mpg in the city and 51 on the highway. The Ford Escape,
> at $3,280, gets 18 mpg in the city and 22 on the highway.
> Enter your annual mileage (15,000), the lifespan of your vehicle (7
> years) and average gasoline cost ($.20). Other factors are resale
> value and annual maintenance costs. Enter yours or use the site's
> default for your chosen vehicles. In this case, the cumulative cost of
> the Prius over seven years was $0,838.30 (taking into consideration a
> resale value of $,598.53), while the cumulative cost of the Escape
> was $0,914.28 (with a resale value of $,269.98). That's an average
> annual savings of $,439.43 and an average per-mile savings of $.10
> with the Prius.
>
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>
Posted by Michelle Steiner on January 5, 2007, 6:01 am
> You compared the Prius to a Ford Escape. Try the comparison to a
> Toyota Corolla, which only costs about $4,000 and it gets 38 mpg on
> the highway. In this comparison it takes many years and miles to
> justify the Prius.
There's no comparison between the two. If you want to compare a Prius
to another Toyota, compare it to the Camry; they're about the same size
and have about the same amenities.
--
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Posted by Michael Pardee on January 6, 2007, 12:18 pm
> You compared the Prius to a Ford Escape. Try the comparison to a Toyota
> Corolla, which only costs about $4,000 and it gets 38 mpg on the highway.
> In this comparison it takes many years and miles to justify the Prius.
> BTW: I have a new 2006 Prius and I love it.
> Dick
The ratio of city to highway driving is also a big factor. Realistically,
our 2002s get mid-40s year round with short trips in town being the norm. In
that service very few cars - including the Corolla - get even upper 20s.
Of course, a hybrid power train is about the only option that even stands up
to that kind of evaluation. What is the payback period for a navigation
system, a premium sound system, HID headlights, a turbocharger, or anything
else that car commercials tout? We get this elegant power delivery and
better economy too.
Mike
Posted by on January 6, 2007, 10:25 pm
>> You compared the Prius to a Ford Escape. Try the comparison to a Toyota
>> Corolla, which only costs about $4,000 and it gets 38 mpg on the
>> highway. In this comparison it takes many years and miles to justify the
>> Prius.
>>
>> BTW: I have a new 2006 Prius and I love it.
>>
>> Dick
>>
> The ratio of city to highway driving is also a big factor. Realistically,
> our 2002s get mid-40s year round with short trips in town being the norm.
> In that service very few cars - including the Corolla - get even upper
> 20s.
> Of course, a hybrid power train is about the only option that even stands
> up to that kind of evaluation. What is the payback period for a navigation
> system, a premium sound system, HID headlights, a turbocharger, or
> anything else that car commercials tout? We get this elegant power
> delivery and better economy too.
> Mike
I had a Corolla for about a week while my Prius was being repaired. I drove
the same routes as usual and I saw 21 mpg. That's about 30 MPG less than my
Prius. What sickened me was the engine running all the time. My gawd,
running while I'm at a light. Running while we're going down hill. What a
freakin waste.
And the damn thing couldn't pass another car worth shit! Spit and sputtered
when it down shifted. I thought I was going to smack the oncoming car.
I never never never had to tailgate anybody just so I could easily pass them
with my Prius. Four or five car lengths back I get in the other lane and
then stomp on it. I don't feel my neck snap back. I feel the pressure
against my chest instead.
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>>> Hybrid car cost calculator
>>>
>>> www.eere.energy.gov/cleancities/hev/calculator
>>>
>>> Thinking about purchasing a hybrid vehicle? This Department of Energy
>>> site will allow you to compare the lifetime costs and air emissions of
>>> a hybrid to those of a conventional vehicle. It even has data on makes
>>> and models, so you won't have to enter any information.
>>>
>>> For example: Compare a 4-cylinder Toyota Prius to a 6-cylinder Ford
>>> Escape. For the Prius, the purchase price is $9,222, with a fuel
>>> economy of 60 mpg in the city and 51 on the highway. The Ford Escape,
>>> at $3,280, gets 18 mpg in the city and 22 on the highway.
>>>
>>> Enter your annual mileage (15,000), the lifespan of your vehicle (7
>>> years) and average gasoline cost ($.20). Other factors are resale
>>> value and annual maintenance costs. Enter yours or use the site's
>>> default for your chosen vehicles. In this case, the cumulative cost of
>>> the Prius over seven years was $0,838.30 (taking into consideration a
>>> resale value of $,598.53), while the cumulative cost of the Escape
>>> was $0,914.28 (with a resale value of $,269.98). That's an average
>>> annual savings of $,439.43 and an average per-mile savings of $.10
>>> with the Prius.
>>>
>>>
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