Posted by Daniel P. B. Smith on March 31, 2005, 12:47 am
> Since the car went on
> sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for
> wear and tear.
Inquiring minds want to know: what _have_ they replaced them for?
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Posted by richard schumacher on March 31, 2005, 3:56 am
>
> > Since the car went on
> > sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for
> > wear and tear.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know: what _have_ they replaced them for?
Uhh, I dunno. I have not heard of any warranty replacements.
Posted by Kevin Kirkeby on March 31, 2005, 4:06 am
I've heard on this group about a replacement done due to a stereo shop using
4 inch self-tapping screws on a speaker installation, impaling two inches of
screw into several cells. I can also imagine that if hit hard enough from
behind, the batteries would need replacement (along with everything else
behind the drivers compartment!)
KK
Posted by Jay Hennigan on April 1, 2005, 11:10 am
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:16:45 -0700, Michael Pardee wrote:
>> Well there is a flipside, you may get 45 mpg and produce less ozone
>> pollution, but now the rest of the story. My brother-in-law is a GM
>> mechanic and a damn good one too. He just shakes his head at the hybrids
>> and says junk. What no one is telling the consumer the average battery
>> life
>> for the hybrids is about 5 years give or take a year. He has already
>> replaced the battery units on several that were just 4 years old and out
>> of
>> warranty.
>
> Ready for the facts when you are. The main battery is expected to last the
> life of the car and is warranted for at least 8 years... unless he is trying
> to say all those people are putting an average of more than 25K miles per
> year on their cars and experiencing failures others aren't. Main battery
> failures are extremely rare - nobody else is reporting them, and you can be
> sure it would be hot news if they were. Are you *that* gullible, or do you
> think we are?
In addition, the main (traction) battery is modular. In the rare event of
a failure, the entire battery doesn't ned to be replaced, just the failed
module. In California and other California-emission states the battery
warranty is 10 years and 120,000 miles, far longer than any gasoline
engine warranty.
Posted by Earle Jones on April 3, 2005, 12:46 am
> > Well there is a flipside, you may get 45 mpg and produce less ozone
> > pollution, but now the rest of the story. My brother-in-law is a GM
> > mechanic and a damn good one too. He just shakes his head at the hybrids
> > and says junk. What no one is telling the consumer the average battery
> > life
> > for the hybrids is about 5 years give or take a year. He has already
> > replaced the battery units on several that were just 4 years old and out
> > of
> > warranty.
>
> Ready for the facts when you are. The main battery is expected to last the
> life of the car and is warranted for at least 8 years... unless he is trying
> to say all those people are putting an average of more than 25K miles per
> year on their cars and experiencing failures others aren't. Main battery
> failures are extremely rare - nobody else is reporting them, and you can be
> sure it would be hot news if they were. Are you *that* gullible, or do you
> think we are?
>
> Is your brother-in-law is lying to you or are you lying to us? Perhaps he is
> too incompetent to realize the batteries are still good, or so crooked he
> knowingly sells unnecessary expensive parts to customers. Those are the only
> logical possibilities. Let us know which it is, will ya?
>
> Mike
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And what kind of batteries is a GM mechanic changing anyway?
earle
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> sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for
> wear and tear.