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Posted by Bob & Holly Wilson on April 22, 2009, 10:18 am

Ah! We have a volunteer for the CO[2] is harmless test.

Bob Wilson

Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 23, 2009, 12:43 pm
 bwilson4use@hotmail.com (Bob & Holly Wilson) wrote:

no, YOU volunteered for the "let's throw out ridiculous extremes and
consider them to be the norm" stupidity test.

Posted by William D on December 18, 2009, 7:54 pm

Sharing a thought and some facts with CO2 fans  -   Maybe it is time to
examine the AlGore theory that 'the sky is falling'.  He said it with
such conviction that he did, after all, get a Nobel Prize.

Lets begin -
   Before the Europeans became Colonial Powers, they were explorers,
and among their discoveries was that some European plants and domestic
animals prospered in the newly discovered lands; but others did not.    

    In order to open the discovered lands to emigration, they first
had to open them to Agriculture.  This led promptly to studies of
Climate, and standardization of Weather Stations and measurement of
Weather Data, both at home and abroad.  
    One of these standardized data sets was the PAN EVAPORATION RATE -
simply, the amount of FRESH WATER (the kind livestock drink) that
evaporates in exactly 24 hours.  A standard size open PAN re-filled
each morning to a standard depth, (after recoding the drop in water
depth from the preceding morning) has provided us with a World-Wide
record since the 1500's, recording how water evaporates, for nearly
every nation and continent.  

    You may now Google for the Pan Evaporation Rate ...

    Until the 1960's, that rate remained quite stable;  then it began
to decline in equatorial regions, coincident with declines in Arctic
ice thickness and increasing temperature in Equatorial Regions.  During
the US ban on Air travel in effect after the Twin Towers were
destroyed,  the Pan Rate returned to its historic (pre 1960) average.

   Has anyone an idea how stopping Global Jet flights accomplished
that?  Pity that neither AlGore nor the Nobel committee never studied
that effect.

   HINT #1 - It is the lower-atmosphere water vapor that retains and
distributes Heat around the Globe, (many times better than Co2) and if
the Atmosphere is carrying less water, then less heat would be removed
from the Equator and less water vapor would reach the thinning Polar
   HINT #2 -What effect does UV radiation have on water molecules
trying to break the surface tension and escape to the lower Atmosphere
Ans - accelerates evaporation WITH LITTLE INCREASE in water temperature
   Hint #3 - What is the main by-product of burning Jet Fuel in the
Upper Atmosphere?
Ans - water vapor, which does NOT normally reach there, and it
flash-freezes into tiny ice crystals.
   HINT #4 -   What effect do upper atmospheric ice crystals have on UV
radiation reaching the ocean Surface?  Ans - reflects UV into space
   HINT #5 - What is a surfactant, and what effect does it have on the
surface tension of water and ice?
Ans - reduces surface tension and breaks up ice crystals.    

   Has anyone been putting surfactants into Jet Fuels?  Well, the
Global temperature has been reducing since the 911 attack - in case you
have not noticed...

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