Posted by Michael Pardee on February 9, 2005, 11:56 am
>> The MPG rating will be about 46 or 47 MPG on Avg. The rating listed
>> by sticker is completely unrealistic, and will no doubt be changed in
>> the future to reflect real-world circumstances.
> It won't be changed unless the EPA changes its testing
> procedures--assuming that nothing else (e.g., engine, drag coefficient,
> vehicle weight, etc.) changes.
> --
Exactly. The ratings were never intended to be reflections of what people
get in the real world; they were for comparison. The CAFE averages used the
EPA fuel economy ratings.
Mike
Posted by Thorn Cuber on February 10, 2005, 4:08 am
I have a 2001 and instead of Fretting about how high I could get the MPG
I decided to see what the Worst I could get for a tank. I live 35
miles from work which is on the shore (SD CA) and live at the 2000 ft
level, all freeway. I drive at least 80 coming off the mountain in the
mornings (that is just keeping up with traffic) and in the evening
going up I hit 92/93 mph on the last steep stretch (does bring the
battery down to one bar). I jack rabbit at lights and stop signs and so
on. Anyway, the Lowest I could ever get the MPG down to for a complete
tank of gas was 37 so my normal of 41 ain't all that bad. I now have 80K
miles on the car and other than one problem with the accelerator linkage
(hmmm... wonder whose fault That was? And DON'T blame my P!) it has run
and is running Wonderfully.
Thorn
Kevin Kirkeby wrote:
> The MPG rating will be about 46 or 47 MPG on Avg. The rating listed by
> sticker is completely unrealistic, and will no doubt be changed in the
> future to reflect real-world circumstances.
>
> I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just remember to use the regenerative
> braking and drive softly on the acceleration.
>
> KK
>
>
>>I neglected to mention in my original post above that I drive very
>>conservatively and carefully, and about 75% of my driving is city.
>>
>>Harlan
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>>|I have just discovered this newsgroup, so please forgive me if I ask
>>| questions that have been raised before. I would like to hear about your
>>| experience with gas mileage. Since picking up my '05 Prius, I have
>>filled
>>it
>>| four times. My MPG averages 44. The last was 38. This is disturbing, so
>>I
>>| arranged with the local dealer to look at it. They did a number of
>>tests,
>>| particularly the highway test, today. Result: 44 MPG. The service guy
>>said
>>| that the MPG will increase with more miles on the car. I have only 2000
>>so
>>| far. Also, he said that my MPG would increase if I would fill with a
>>better
>>| grade of gas, such as Chevron or Shell. I have been using Arco.
>>| I would appreciate any comment, particularly comparing with your
>>| experience. Many thanks.
>>|
>>| Harlan
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Posted by Robin Smith on February 10, 2005, 4:39 pm
Oh! This is pretty dissapointing. Also a friend told me that Prius was
actually worse than a good 2.0 turbo diesel from any Euro manufacturer
So why would i want to buy a Prius if there are other, cheaper cars with
better MPG?
Thanks
> The MPG rating will be about 46 or 47 MPG on Avg. The rating listed by
> sticker is completely unrealistic, and will no doubt be changed in the
> future to reflect real-world circumstances.
> I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just remember to use the regenerative
> braking and drive softly on the acceleration.
> KK
> >I neglected to mention in my original post above that I drive very
> > conservatively and carefully, and about 75% of my driving is city.
> >
> > Harlan
> > ---
> > [If you reply to my email address, please delete the word REMOVE from
the
> > address.]
> >
> >
> > |I have just discovered this newsgroup, so please forgive me if I ask
> > | questions that have been raised before. I would like to hear about
your
> > | experience with gas mileage. Since picking up my '05 Prius, I have
> > filled
> > it
> > | four times. My MPG averages 44. The last was 38. This is disturbing,
so
> > I
> > | arranged with the local dealer to look at it. They did a number of
> > tests,
> > | particularly the highway test, today. Result: 44 MPG. The service guy
> > said
> > | that the MPG will increase with more miles on the car. I have only
2000
> > so
> > | far. Also, he said that my MPG would increase if I would fill with a
> > better
> > | grade of gas, such as Chevron or Shell. I have been using Arco.
> > | I would appreciate any comment, particularly comparing with your
> > | experience. Many thanks.
> > |
> > | Harlan
> > | ---
> > | [If you reply to my email address, please delete the word REMOVE from
> > the
> > | address.]
> > |
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
Posted by Michael Pardee on February 10, 2005, 11:02 pm
> Oh! This is pretty dissapointing. Also a friend told me that Prius was
> actually worse than a good 2.0 turbo diesel from any Euro manufacturer
> So why would i want to buy a Prius if there are other, cheaper cars with
> better MPG?
> Thanks
As many have pointed out, the dollars in fuel savings at current prices will
never make up for the price difference between the Prius and the similar
Corolla. Fuel economy alone is not the best reason to choose the Prius.
There have always been cheaper cars with better fuel economy than more
expensive cars.
I was hooked by the smoothness of the power delivery, the manueverability
(we have a 2002) and the comfort. It was just right for us. I never even
considered a diesel - they are still noisy at low speeds, smoky at hard
acceleration (yes - even the late model TDi's smoke here at 7000 feet when
accelerating up hills in town), and diesels don't age gracefully. When the
engine wears they start on ever fewer cylinders and smoke more. Direct
injection can't change the laws of physics. And I have been on two charter
vehicles, a tour bus and a whale watching charter, that suffered turbo
failure on the diesels. Both blew oil spray and huge volumes of smoke out
the tail pipes. I don't know about the bus, but the boat went through a 5
gallon can of oil getting back into port from about a mile out. Things like
that make me not want to go there.
To each their own. Many people buy Prius for the low emissions. I was
interested because the technology is the only sensible way to approach a car
in mixed city/highway use.
Mike
Posted by Michelle Steiner on February 11, 2005, 12:39 am
> Oh! This is pretty dissapointing. Also a friend told me that Prius
> was actually worse than a good 2.0 turbo diesel from any Euro
> manufacturer
He's wrong.
> So why would i want to buy a Prius if there are other, cheaper cars
> with better MPG?
Well, if you want cheap, go for cheap. You can get an Echo for $2,325
or a Rio for $0,535.
But if you want a midsize car with one of the best gas mileages
available, and is one of the lowest polluting cars, some luxury items,
and some leading-edge technology, the only answer is Prius.
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>> by sticker is completely unrealistic, and will no doubt be changed in
>> the future to reflect real-world circumstances.
> It won't be changed unless the EPA changes its testing
> procedures--assuming that nothing else (e.g., engine, drag coefficient,
> vehicle weight, etc.) changes.
> --